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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 02:42 PM
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Byron, I sent you a text detailing the steps I would take if I were in your position. Post them here if you like or shoot me a text back and let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Keep us posted.
I guess the rest of us are flys on horsecrap. We aint worthy enough to know the Sousalosophy.....
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 03:23 PM
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I guess the rest of us are flys on horsecrap. We aint worthy enough to know the Sousalosophy.....
Not at all sir!

I happened to be outside cleaning the yard and debris from Florence when Byron asked me about my steering work experiences.

I told him the following (paraphrasing)...

1. I would get a gallon of Valvoline synthetic ATF from Autozone for ~$7.
2. Raise the front end of the truck and flush the fluid system until he saw fresh fluid and see if things got easier.
3. He could disconnect the trackbar from the pitman arm and eliminate any binding the in the linkage to identify if the problem is in the steering gear or maybe the pump.
4. I asked about the adjustment screw and if it had ever been tightened.
5. I asked if the steering gear was original to the truck.

Maybe a couple of other things too, but don't remember now...
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 03:59 PM
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Byron, before flushing the system check for cavitation as I mentioned in my first post. Flushing isn't going to fix a bad pump and it's free and takes 10 minutes.


West Texas Off Road does a great job, whether it's rebuilding your gear box or porting it for Hydro assist. They ported my PSC gearbox and did an outstanding job!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 05:26 PM
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Just one other thought. Have you checked the condition of the ball joints? One of the older truck at work had some pretty bad ball joints and it was difficult to keep it even close to staying on the road. Very tight to drive and the steering would not return to normal position after making even a slight turn.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 06:35 PM
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Can they (WTO) rebuild or increase the volume of the PS pump?


Originally Posted by Colorado350
Byron, before flushing the system check for cavitation as I mentioned in my first post. Flushing isn't going to fix a bad pump and it's free and takes 10 minutes.


West Texas Off Road does a great job, whether it's rebuilding your gear box or porting it for Hydro assist. They ported my PSC gearbox and did an outstanding job!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 06:52 PM
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Can they (WTO) rebuild or increase the volume of the PS pump?

They did on mine, but there’s still a flow restriction through the hydro boost so, the time it takes to steer from lock to lock is still a little longer at idle rpm due to the extra volume of the ram.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 06:56 PM
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I wonder if the hydroboost can be ported for more flow?

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They did on mine, but there’s still a flow restriction through the hydro boost so, the time it takes to steer from lock to lock is still a little longer at idle rpm due to the extra volume of the ram.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 07:12 PM
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I wonder if the hydroboost can be ported for more flow?
Akcooper talked to West Texas off-road about that and they didn’t recommend it, but I can’t remember why. IMO, the only time it would be needed is if you were terrible at backing trailers up and are constantly steering lock to lock, otherwise, most would never notice it.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The Brad



They did on mine, but there’s still a flow restriction through the hydro boost so, the time it takes to steer from lock to lock is still a little longer at idle rpm due to the extra volume of the ram.




I just need more flow at idle.





Originally Posted by The Brad


Akcooper talked to West Texas off-road about that and they didn’t recommend it, but I can’t remember why. IMO, the only time it would be needed is if you were terrible at backing trailers up and are constantly steering lock to lock, otherwise, most would never notice it.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 07:29 PM
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Matt at WTO does good work but i seriously doubt anybody in the aftermarket understands the hydroboost as well as Alan at Vanco. I would give them a call if you ate serious about performance
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by shortblockchevy
I just need more flow at idle.
West Texas Offroad suggested I try the ram and modified power steering pump before messing with the hydro boost.

I personally can not tell a difference in turning the wheel lock to lock with 35s from a speed stand point. You all must be in a rush

 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 08:01 PM
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Akcooper talked to West Texas off-road about that and they didn’t recommend it, but I can’t remember why. IMO, the only time it would be needed is if you were terrible at backing trailers up and are constantly steering lock to lock, otherwise, most would never notice it.

I can see it now, Mr Tuner can you make me a trailer backing up higher then stock idle tune so I get more flow in the power steering system. Maybe a 750-800 idle tune?!?!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 08:52 PM
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Can they (WTO) rebuild or increase the volume of the PS pump?
You can modify the pump but you have to be careful not to drill it out too much. You can also put a smaller pulley on the pump will cause the pump to turn faster. You may also need a shorter belt. If you go to a hydro assist it’s unlikely you’ll need to modify the pump but you have the option.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 09:04 PM
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Can they (WTO) rebuild or increase the volume of the PS pump?
Yes they can and do. The Brad and I both have modified PS pumps.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 09:09 PM
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Thank you. Do you know if their gearboxes are rebuilt to the same precision as Redhead? I've installed several RH's, but the last two leaked from the shaft seal.


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Yes they can and do. The Brad and I both have modified PS pumps.
 
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