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Old Sep 15, 2018 | 07:27 PM
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hello guys,
been a long time since I posted.
I have a 96 f 350 4-door long bed 2wd with automatic and 195k Mls
The truck is pretty much stock except a straight exhaust and 34" tires.
I am looking for reccomendation for a chip, programmer , not too expensive and not too extreme. I need the extra power for pulling a trailer over long distance and for a horse trailer, since my truck is pretty dern slow.
Any reccomendation what to get , that wind hurt the old truck too much , but helps me to keep up with the slow trucks on the interstate ? Anyone has anything for sale?
thanks
 
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Old Sep 15, 2018 | 07:44 PM
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With stock injectors all you will gain is 50 hp with any bodies tune. Upgrade the injectors and it’s a whole new world.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2018 | 07:58 PM
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I had upgraded injectors in my prior truck. Due to time constrain and no funds allocated to this truck, I was hoping to just use a tuner .. if I can get 30 or so more hp, that would be great for that truck and hopefully not too much extra strain on the that transmission .
 
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Old Sep 15, 2018 | 08:24 PM
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I run a older Evolution tuner, keep it on tow mode and that's plenty. I also have 3" downpipe and a DYI 6637 intake. Have to let these big beasts breath.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2018 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dieselsubmariner
hello guys,
been a long time since I posted.
I have a 96 f 350 4-door long bed 2wd with automatic and 195k Mls
The truck is pretty much stock except a straight exhaust and 34" tires.
I am looking for reccomendation for a chip, programmer , not too expensive and not too extreme. I need the extra power for pulling a trailer over long distance and for a horse trailer, since my truck is pretty dern slow.
Any reccomendation what to get , that wind hurt the old truck too much , but helps me to keep up with the slow trucks on the interstate ? Anyone has anything for sale?
thanks
I’d do a chip, downpipe and a 6637.
That’ll be the most power you’ll get without doing injectors.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2018 | 09:39 AM
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Stefan, I don’t have a chip yet either but I have a similar application to yours. I’ve been looking at the PHP Hydra chips. Ot cheap at $325 but they come with a good selection of basic, not custom tunes. There are a lot of guys here running chips, I think almost everybody, so you should get some replies soon.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2018 | 12:19 PM
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Those tires are not helping your cause. They are taller, wider, and significantly heavier than stock. Also, check for boost leaks. You probably have some.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 01:06 AM
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All I've had any experience with is TS 6-position chips - quick, easy, cheap, and seem to be effective, without anything nasty on the pyro. With stock injectors, the "top" tunes don't do anything the 50hp. doesn't, but still good (and high idle is slick when it's 30 below). The normal hops for the ones I've been around was a big paper filter, TS chip, and some type of downpipe, with/without a big exhaust. My current hangar queen got it's goodies in the late '90s, so there weren't the affordable exhaust options at the time - I used a Hypermax downpipe (biggest at the time, was a 3 1/2" sleeve outlet rather than the cat flange), and from there belled out to 5", straight section of pipe back to a shorty truck muffler (lived in Colorado at the time, didn't need the Cat but needed a muffler), then some 45s and a 90 to get over the axle, and another 45 out behind the wheel. But, the last couple we had through the shop got regular old MBRP kits, with mufflers, just plain aluminized - cheap and effective. I still like the sound better out of my 5", though...…..WAY overkill as far as backpressure goes, but lowers the velocity enough it doesn't sound like a 460 with a burnt valve the way some do.

One thing that was learned early on with these is that you pretty much NEED a chip if you do the exhaust - dyno reports show a pretty good loss of bottom-end by opening up the back without modifying the programming.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeHan
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One thing that was learned early on with these is that you pretty much NEED a chip if you do the exhaust - dyno reports show a pretty good loss of bottom-end by opening up the back without modifying the programming.
There seems to be a lot of butt-dyno opinions on this. Do you have any actual before and after dyno reports? Reason I'm asking is that in spite of all the opinions and explanations I just can't get it to make sense.

 
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Old Sep 22, 2018 | 03:01 PM
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Man, it's been a lllooooonnnngggg time since all this took place. No, I've never had mine on rollers, closest one is 300 miles, but many did back in the day. Used to be "thedieselstop", Jason Lester's old site, there was a ton of information. Want to say it was Swamp that had the scientific evidence, so to speak, of the fuel map not matching the boost map not matching the turbo drive ratio and why it all needed to be adjusted when the factory backpressure was changed.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2018 | 09:21 PM
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My truck was on the rollers and the difference between no exhaust at all(elbow at turbo pointing up) and a full 5” exhaust was 4hp. 25* difference in egt. It made no difference in spool time, boost or how fast it would rev
 
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