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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 08:13 PM
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Difference between these two Motorcraft 6.4 starters??

I noticed that there are two types of "new" 6.4 Motorcraft branded starters available (both can be found on Rock Auto under the same 6.4 application fyi).

Motorcraft NSA6675N (G2MZ-11002-AW) = Costs ~$210-220, is listed as "new" (not reman) "premium aftermarket" and built to OE specs and comes with a test sheet from 'DV Electronics Ltd' and has no core. The test sheet on the one I bought today showed:
Rated Power= 2.5kW Max Power= 2.63kW Free Run Test Speed= 4086

After getting home I noticed a more expensive Motorcraft 6.4 starter, part SA965 (7C3Z-11002-AA), it is listed as OEM and costs ~$350-400 and has a core.

What is the difference between the two?? I'd rather pay a bit more and get better quality if there is a big difference
 
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 09:05 PM
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I'm pulling up a different list. IMO, none in this group are what's put on the vehicle at the assembly line, except maybe the last.


 
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 09:09 PM
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After looking around online, the more expensive one includes a $35 core charge. Usually a core charge reflects that you're buying a remanufactured part.
One other thing is the cheaper one says "Motor Assembly" where the other is labeled as just "Starter".
So I don't really know. I bought my 6.4 starter from a wreck on eBay.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 09:09 PM
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As I did too. Hunted to find the correct label and mileage.

They can ask for a core just to fill the supply chain though Pete.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 10:21 PM
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I searched for a 2008 year model F250 6.4 on Rock Auto if that helps...it then had a section for "new" and "remanufactured" under the Electrical > Starter Motor sub menus.

The one I got says made in China on the original Motorcraft box.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 10:39 PM
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Ford has pushed a lot of their suppliers to China for a lower price on the replacement parts. You may be fine with it. My old company had to jump through hoops to qualify parts for Ford's Motorcraft line. On the other hand, I wouldn't recommend buying one of their replacement motors.
 
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
Ford has pushed a lot of their suppliers to China for a lower price on the replacement parts. You may be fine with it. My old company had to jump through hoops to qualify parts for Ford's Motorcraft line. On the other hand, I wouldn't recommend buying one of their replacement motors.
By motors are you referring to an engine, or starter motor?

I may call the dealership to see if they can tell me the difference between the Motorcraft starters. It almost seems like the expensive one is genuine OEM that requires a core, and the other is a cheaper Motorcraft aftermarket China option.
 
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As in Diesel engine assembly, with block, heads, crankshaft, etc.
 
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It very well may be the OE part. I came from a company that made parts for the auto manufacturers and sold also to the aftermarket. So we qualified as an “OE”, and parts would be marketed in the aftermarket as coming from OE, or OE quality. They were completely different parts. And there’s the term OE specs. Ford never gives out the specs to anyone, and as a supplier to Ford your not allowed to disseminate the specs or sell the product that you contracted to make for Ford. So I get speptical about descriptions.

OE assembly line Ford parts carry numbers such as 7C3Z-11002-AA, and that’s how I’ve ordered them for 30 years. The Motorcraft line-up, which is Ford’s aftermarket line has a different set of labeling. The SA965 starter may very well be the exact same and it’s RockAuto description may be screwing with my head. Ford appears to be merging the two lines lately.

When I put in the 7C3Z-11002-AA number into one of the Ford dealer search engines it comes up with this. So based on pricing, and despite the core charge, very well can be the same. Note the label on the starter. It’s what I looked for when I bought the eBay starter on a 60k mile truck for around $75.





 
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Thank you, the cheaper one of the two I bought does not have that label. I will stop by the Ford parts counter after work today, and if the more expensive one is not made in China then the one I bought yesterday will be going back to the local diesel shop I purchased it from. I just figured there has to be a difference since they offer both and there is over a $100 price difference.

My current original OEM starter has 155K miles and still working, I'd just like to be preventative and change it out now so I don't get stranded and forced into an auto parts store remanufactured unit the same day.
 
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Understood. I have a series of parts on different vehicles that I change out in a preventative maintenance scheme before they actually break. Starters like batteries of course depend on how many times the starter is engaged, not necessarily miles. Alternators, miles or hours.
 
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Update: Had it confirmed by dealer... The cheaper Motorcraft starter that runs ~$220 is a cheaper made in China alternative to the OEM starter that runs $350+.

Place I bought it from insisted that the cheaper one was OEM when I returned the China one just because it was Motorcraft branded. Then they got upset when I pointed out the two different Motorcraft part numbers and the price difference.
 
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