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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 07:24 AM
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You’re phone has to be open to use Waze with IOS or it will freeze. I wish it ran in the background. Kind of a pain
 
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 07:37 AM
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Honestly, it's not that great. It's super-jittery, and half the time the touches have an issue where there's a double-touch or they don't work at all. Sometimes the map comes up blank. I use it every day. But yes, you can choose to use either nav option. If you want to switch back to Sync nav (the worst navigation system I've ever seen in any vehicle I've owned) just force-close Waze on the phone or unplug it.

iOS 12, which should be released next month, will add the ability for navigation apps to be used with CarPlay. Waze is working on making it compatible.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bitNine
Honestly, it's not that great. It's super-jittery, and half the time the touches have an issue where there's a double-touch or they don't work at all. Sometimes the map comes up blank. I use it every day. But yes, you can choose to use either nav option. If you want to switch back to Sync nav (the worst navigation system I've ever seen in any vehicle I've owned) just force-close Waze on the phone or unplug it.

iOS 12, which should be released next month, will add the ability for navigation apps to be used with CarPlay. Waze is working on making it compatible.
Come on now.......the SYNC Navigation is not that bad at all and it works much better than Waze on SYNC.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 09:05 AM
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You can only display either the Ford nav screen or Waze. You can switch between the two, but it's cumbersome- actually awkward. I have found it to be not such a great mash-up; and on my set-up it always seems Waze eventually stops updating.

So I run the Ford nav (which includes the Sirius/XM traffic info stuff) and it will reroute you if it finds a faster route - same as Waze (Google maps don't). Not sure I trust that 'feature', especially when pulling the 5th wheel.

Simultaneously I run Waze on my iPhone. I like the heads up info on road conditions, accidents, hazards on road & cars on shoulders. So that the Waze audio comes through the Ford audio (just like the Ford nav commands do) you have to go into the Waze settings and set the sound output to "Play as Bluetooth phone call". That kind of fools the Ford system into playing the iPhone/Waze audio as if a phone call is coming in (and it shows it like that for a moment on the Ford screen). With this set-up I can listen to the radio and still get Waze and Ford nav audio updates all from the same source.

Hope all this make sense.
This is the way I run it, as well. I find it nice to have Waze on the (phone) screen all the time.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 12:35 PM
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Come on now.......the SYNC Navigation is not that bad at all and it works much better than Waze on SYNC.
I guess I'm just used to way better. It's the equivalent of a GPS from a decade ago with its top-down-only view. There hasn't been a GPS made in years that doesn't have some sort of 3D (bird's eye) view like the Waze default. Well... except for this one. The maps are at least 4 years old, as half the streets around me are missing. Neighborhood next to mine has been in place for almost 5 years, and it's not even on the map. The streets and platting were on Google maps almost 2 years before they even started making the streets of the neighborhood, meaning the maps are like 6 years behind. Options-wise, compared to Uconnect (which really isn't much better in terms of map updates) in the Ram and my wife's Jeep, it blows sync out of the water, even including turn-by-turn directions in the instrument cluster, and numerous view options. Aside from route guidance options, there's like 6 options for nav. The "where am I" screen doesn't even include altitude. There's no way to see GPS satellite status. It's just missing a ton of features any normal GPS/nav system would have.

Even with the poor frame rate of Waze, and the other issues it has, I use it every single day.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 12:50 PM
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Can you guys with iPhones not switch back and forth from CarPlay and Sync at will?

In Android Auto there's a menu button on every screen that lets you quickly flip back and forth, I don't use it much as I'm pretty much exclusively in AA, but if I need to adjust the sound settings or want to compare the truck temp gauge to Google Weather I can in two taps.

And there's just no comparison to Waze/Gmaps and the stock nav. Traffic, routing, voice integration, adding stops on your route via voice, sharing your trip progress with friends... There's just so much more functionality and such better maps...I don't see a single plus for the stock nav.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bitNine
I guess I'm just used to way better. It's the equivalent of a GPS from a decade ago with its top-down-only view. There hasn't been a GPS made in years that doesn't have some sort of 3D (bird's eye) view like the Waze default. Well... except for this one. The maps are at least 4 years old, as half the streets around me are missing. Neighborhood next to mine has been in place for almost 5 years, and it's not even on the map. The streets and platting were on Google maps almost 2 years before they even started making the streets of the neighborhood, meaning the maps are like 6 years behind. Options-wise, compared to Uconnect (which really isn't much better in terms of map updates) in the Ram and my wife's Jeep, it blows sync out of the water, even including turn-by-turn directions in the instrument cluster, and numerous view options. Aside from route guidance options, there's like 6 options for nav. The "where am I" screen doesn't even include altitude. There's no way to see GPS satellite status. It's just missing a ton of features any normal GPS/nav system would have.

Even with the poor frame rate of Waze, and the other issues it has, I use it every single day.
Coming from a 2013 Ram Laramie, I am highly disappointed in what information you can get from the sync navigation system. That information is in the unit, Ford just needs to update the software so we can see it. Ford needs to at least offer a limited time for free updates to these maps. It really is a shame how outdated the maps are in a new vehicle.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2018 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tricon
Can you guys with iPhones not switch back and forth from CarPlay and Sync at will?

In Android Auto there's a menu button on every screen that lets you quickly flip back and forth, I don't use it much as I'm pretty much exclusively in AA, but if I need to adjust the sound settings or want to compare the truck temp gauge to Google Weather I can in two taps.

And there's just no comparison to Waze/Gmaps and the stock nav. Traffic, routing, voice integration, adding stops on your route via voice, sharing your trip progress with friends... There's just so much more functionality and such better maps...I don't see a single plus for the stock nav.
I'm going to have to either find someone with an Android phone in their truck, get one of them to try theirs in my truck or get an Android just to try this.

I don't think Apple Play is all that great. And, as I have experienced as other have - it freezes after a while.
 
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Waze and maps just have an awful resolution for me on the sync screen so I don't like them. I use the factory nav and let Waze in the background thru Bluetooth so I warns me via the stereo. That way I get the best of both worlds
 
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