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Quirks
I have a 2011 6.2 FS4 CCLB, which I bought 3 years ago, with just over 100K on the clock. Love my truck. But it has 2 particular quirks:
1) When I've filled up the gas tank, the first time I start the engine, the starter tends to "run on". i.e. Usually, a touch of the key will crank the engine, and immediately disengage when it starts. But the first time after a fill-up, it doesn't disengage, so I have to turn the ignition off and back on, and then it starts perfectly. This has happened countless times after fill-ups, so is not just a one-off thing. At all other times, it starts up perfectly.
2) After I start the truck (warm or cold), if I pull away hard, it sticks in 1st gear for far too long, then "dithers" as though it can't find second, sometimes for up to several seconds, before engaging with 2nd, sometimes with a disconcerting clunk. It only does this the first time after the truck has been started ... once its been through the gears it shifts flawlessly. Note this only happens when I start off with too much "enthusiasm", if I do my regular gentle "old-guys" pull-off, then everything works just fine through the first shift, and thereafter.
I assume that the first issue must be a software issue, maybe following a different logic path to reset the cluster information for range, etc, as I know of no other connection between my gas cap and my ignition switch.
Anyone out there experienced either of these, or similar quirks?
1) When I've filled up the gas tank, the first time I start the engine, the starter tends to "run on". i.e. Usually, a touch of the key will crank the engine, and immediately disengage when it starts. But the first time after a fill-up, it doesn't disengage, so I have to turn the ignition off and back on, and then it starts perfectly. This has happened countless times after fill-ups, so is not just a one-off thing. At all other times, it starts up perfectly.
2) After I start the truck (warm or cold), if I pull away hard, it sticks in 1st gear for far too long, then "dithers" as though it can't find second, sometimes for up to several seconds, before engaging with 2nd, sometimes with a disconcerting clunk. It only does this the first time after the truck has been started ... once its been through the gears it shifts flawlessly. Note this only happens when I start off with too much "enthusiasm", if I do my regular gentle "old-guys" pull-off, then everything works just fine through the first shift, and thereafter.
I assume that the first issue must be a software issue, maybe following a different logic path to reset the cluster information for range, etc, as I know of no other connection between my gas cap and my ignition switch.
Anyone out there experienced either of these, or similar quirks?
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#1 hard starting after fill up is textbook EVAP canister purge valve sticking - there is a TSB for it. Is it hard to fill up also (pump clicks off a lot)?
http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/...dPdf?id=169354
#2 sounds like one the issues that early 11 trucks had with harsh shifts. I believe there was a TSB to replace one of the solenoids and reflash with software updates.
http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/...dPdf?id=169354
#2 sounds like one the issues that early 11 trucks had with harsh shifts. I believe there was a TSB to replace one of the solenoids and reflash with software updates.
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Many thanks, Saratoga, for your response! However, it appears however that either I've explained badly, or you've missed some of the details in my post:
#1. The truck starts up just fine (and doesn't run rough) the second and subsequent times you start it after filling the tank. The first time, however, the starter doesn't disengage as it should. (Also, it fills up just fine).
#2. The truck shifts smoothly and without issues, in general operation. Only the first time after starting does it "lose it" between 1st and second, and only when pulling off hard. At all other times its the very model of smooth co-operation.
I'm very happy with the way my truck runs, in general.
#1. The truck starts up just fine (and doesn't run rough) the second and subsequent times you start it after filling the tank. The first time, however, the starter doesn't disengage as it should. (Also, it fills up just fine).
#2. The truck shifts smoothly and without issues, in general operation. Only the first time after starting does it "lose it" between 1st and second, and only when pulling off hard. At all other times its the very model of smooth co-operation.
I'm very happy with the way my truck runs, in general.
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I have a 2011 F350 6.2l CC; bought it new in 2010, so original owner; 100,000 miles on it. I’ve had a hard shift occasionally between 1 and 2 where it hangs in 1st and revs up then would slam into 2 hard. This was under normal acceleration like pulling out of a parking lot. Did searches on it and apparently it is a notmal thing. I never had it checked out, and I don’t think it’s happened for a few years now.
Regarding the starter not disengaging, it’s odd that a fuel fill would affect anything mechanical (other than the fuel pump maybe). If it were me, I’d check the starter or the ignition. If you have remote start, try that after you do a fill up and see if the starter stays engaged. If it doesn’t, might be the key/ignition switch in the steering column.
Regarding the starter not disengaging, it’s odd that a fuel fill would affect anything mechanical (other than the fuel pump maybe). If it were me, I’d check the starter or the ignition. If you have remote start, try that after you do a fill up and see if the starter stays engaged. If it doesn’t, might be the key/ignition switch in the steering column.
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