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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 10:43 AM
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ThNk you yahiko for all that info. I’ve got everything tool wise with the exception of the bushes. Just trying to figure out if it actually is a bad injector. I hate just throwing parts at a problem.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 10:51 AM
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Something else I just noticed. If i turn the key on and don’t start kt, you can hear things priming up in the engine bay and after about 5 seconds, it sounds as jf pressure is quickly relieved out of the air filter assy. Never have heard that before.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 10:54 AM
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I could just be bad seals on the injector, sometimes due to a loose clamp so you'll want to look for that unbolting.

Without the brushes you could try using a small piece of Scotchbite with a dowel then vacuum out the debris, or just go with a rag if you need the truck Monday. If it doesn't seal well, order up the brushes.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 10:55 AM
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The sound by the air cleaner may be the ABS controller doing it's check. hard to say without hearing it.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 11:30 AM
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I called a dealership a county over and they can get an injector Monday for $230. Just not sure yet if it’s in fact an injector. Ugh! What to do....
 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
The sound by the air cleaner may be the ABS controller doing it's check. hard to say without hearing it.
ill bet you’re right. It sounds like it could be something like that.

The truck starts much much easier if I turn the key on three times to prime it up. I’m starting to wonder if that injector may have just failed really bad and why my symptoms are so extreme.

 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 12:09 PM
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Check your engine oil level to see if it's going up.
Dumping raw fuel in can do that. If that is the case the next thing to go will be the turbo bearings if let go.

You can pull the stand pipe from the filter housing and look down at the opening and see what side the bubbles
are coming from. Then you remove all the glow plugs on that side and put them in one at a time. Check all of them
so that you don't miss if you have more than one injector causing the issue.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 12:16 PM
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Engine oil doesn’t appear to be going up.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 12:20 PM
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ill bet you’re right. It sounds like it could be something like that.

The truck starts much much easier if I turn the key on three times to prime it up. I’m starting to wonder if that injector may have just failed really bad and why my symptoms are so extreme.


If the copper seal has lost integrity and compressed air is getting into the fuel rail of one of the heads all the injectors on that side will be fuel starved. Running much under that condition will hurt the other injectors.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 12:12 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I’m gonna go ahead and tear it down today and get the injector out. Since my truck is an early 04, will I need any special tools to remove the injector? Thought i read somewhere that the standpipes required a removal tool and maybe the injector too. I’ll pick up my new injector tomorrow evening at the dealership.
Thanks
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 02:27 PM
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No really odd tools for the injectors other than a good torx bit. You want one with a shank long enough
that you can cleat the top of things and still get good torque on install with it. Don't use the really long
apex bit style they have a lot of twist to them and that will screw up the final torque. I blew one injector out
doing that If you have a Harbor Freight near by this set is the one I have I think. >>> https://www.harborfreight.com/6-pc-1...set-68015.html
The tool to seperate the high pressure oil cupping is what looks like the flat wrench you use to hold the
arbor of an angle grinder. Some find that **** and works well. I can't say for sure I have a 2006. But if
you elect to just unthread it at the upper oil rail connection be warned that fitting is easy to snap when putting
it back in from over torquing. So use the correct torque to reinstall of you get an oil leak that can leave you
high and dry somewhere.

Let me know if you need the injector R&R PDF for your year truck.

EDIT: One other thing about that tool over an apex bit shoved into a socket. It won't slip out and fall into the
pit of no return and then drive you nuts worring about where it has gone to and what it till do. The onther name
for the pit of no return is "The Pit Of Despair" or "The Pit Of Doom". Anyway you won't have to dig it out with that socket.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
No really odd tools for the injectors other than a good torx bit. You want one with a shank long enough
that you can cleat the top of things and still get good torque on install with it. Don't use the really long
apex bit style they have a lot of twist to them and that will screw up the final torque. I blew one injector out
doing that If you have a Harbor Freight near by this set is the one I have I think. >>> https://www.harborfreight.com/6-pc-1...set-68015.html
The tool to seperate the high pressure oil cupping is what looks like the flat wrench you use to hold the
arbor of an angle grinder. Some find that **** and works well. I can't say for sure I have a 2006. But if
you elect to just unthread it at the upper oil rail connection be warned that fitting is easy to snap when putting
it back in from over torquing. So use the correct torque to reinstall of you get an oil leak that can leave you
high and dry somewhere.

Let me know if you need the injector R&R PDF for your year truck.

EDIT: One other thing about that tool over an apex bit shoved into a socket. It won't slip out and fall into the
pit of no return and then drive you nuts worring about where it has gone to and what it till do. The onther name
for the pit of no return is "The Pit Of Despair" or "The Pit Of Doom". Anyway you won't have to dig it out with that socket.
thank ya sir! So i will need a tool to separate the cupping? I’ve just about got the valve cover off. Had to take a break and have a coke with my buddy, Jim Beam, cause it’s a million degrees in my shop right now. I feel like i just jumped in the pool I’m so wet with sweat.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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And yeah i would certainly appreciate that pdf. I’ll pm you my email. Thank you
 
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 02:47 PM
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I'll post it here. I will post it later tonight. I thought I had a copy but it looks like I will have to go
into the DVD and make that one. I thought I had it already.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 03:05 PM
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Ok got it.
This will have more info that you need. The injector info is in with the cylinder head
removal. You can just skim over the extra stuff and pull out what you need.

Also both SrMasterTech and DieselTechRon on Youtube have injector R&R videos.
They are worth watching IMHO.
 
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