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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 10:24 AM
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A clean cooling system with the proper mix of Ford Gold will not clog the system in 10,000 miles. You have other problems.
Ant ideas? Running 55-60 EOT 210 ECT 194. Hauling 30ft camper EOT goes 230 + and ECT 202 or so, and this started very recent
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 10:27 AM
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Ant ideas? Running 55-60 EOT 210 ECT 194. Hauling 30ft camper EOT goes 230 + and ECT 202 or so, and this started very recent
Sounds like an oil cooler to me but like I said, Ford Gold at the proper mix isn't the culprit in 10,000 miles.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 10:52 AM
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I can't translate "oembsainless oil cooler".

It really sounds like the oil cooler is not performing with enough flow. The historic oil cooler clogging over time from the Gold coolant is clogging within the plates. that's not happening in 10k miles.

I have two cut apart oil coolers that show debris clogging the intake of the oil cooler as the coolant is flowing onto the plates. So either the motor wasn't cleaned as it should have been, the coolant passages were protected from rusting in storage with a coating, or all the debris was not fully purged from the radiator and heater core, which is most likely the case.

If the debris is not seriously wedged in place, a backflush of the cooler can partially or fully clear the debris. That is what I would try rather then a "flush" that only continues to trap and debris with the normal flow direction. Then if that doesn't work replace the cooler. Keep in mind there still can be retained debris to come out of the woodwork iif that the source of the issue.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 11:33 AM
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I would suspect the system wasn't properly cleaned. IMO, not many dealerships will take the time necessary to do a good job cleaning a dirty system. Not many use distilled water either, at least from my experience.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 11:37 AM
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I would suspect the system wasn't properly cleaned. IMO, not many dealerships will take the time necessary to do a good job cleaning a dirty system. Not many use distilled water either, at least from my experience.
This was not done at a dealership, he has his own garage on the side and he does nothing but 6.0 and is a ford diesel master tech, this is a brand new engine and is just shy of its 2nd oil change, hence I find crazy oil cooler clogging up now, so gonna looking into a new cooler and coolant filter of go external oil cooler.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 11:50 AM
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As Jack asked, what did you mean by "oembsainless" oil cooler? Just OEM? Actual Ford part?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 11:54 AM
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Yes OEM Stainless oil cooler
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 12:09 PM
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Oh, I know a guy who clogged way earlier. Nylyon.

Have you talked to your independent Ford diesel master tech about the issue? He did the work.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
Oh, I know a guy who clogged way earlier. Nylyon.

Have you talked to your independent Ford diesel master tech about the issue? He did the work.
He works for a local ford dealership, and yes, did talk to him but he has no idea other than the cooler is clogging, now just deciding which way to go with the wallet lol
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 69cj
A clean cooling system with the proper mix of Ford Gold will not clog the system in 10,000 miles. You have other problems.
No, but it is not uncommon for this to happen again when the cooling system wasn't cleaned enough when they replaced the cooler. And yes, the Ford Gold has also been suspect for a while to add to the equation.
He's definitely not the first one to have this repeat clogging to happen to.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 12:34 PM
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Try backflushing the oil cooler first, it's cheaper than an R&R right now:
https://www.accuratediesel.com/6-0l-...flush-kit.html
 
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No, but it is not uncommon for this to happen again when the cooling system wasn't cleaned enough when they replaced the cooler. And yes, the Ford Gold has also been suspect for a while to add to the equation.
He's definitely not the first one to have this repeat clogging to happen to.
Once again, the cooling system not being properly cleaned would be my first guess. Lots of junk can hibernate in the bottom of the radiator and then break loose. And yes, the gold has been a source due to silicate fallout but, not in 10,000 miles with a properly cleaned system.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 02:38 PM
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Once again, the cooling system not being properly cleaned would be my first guess. Lots of junk can hibernate in the bottom of the radiator and then break loose. And yes, the gold has been a source due to silicate fallout but, not in 10,000 miles with a properly cleaned system.
Once again, There IS gold coolant failure BECAUSE the cooler is clogging up. It's a domino effect. First the cooler clogs due to junk in the system. Then the coolant overheats in the egr cooler because there isn't sufficient flow. Due to this overheating the coolant fails and clogs the cooler even more. This isn't just simply one failure. It's a chain reaction that eventually results in heads lifted and total destruction of the engine.
Keeping an eye on the Deltas is a good way to halt the chain reaction if you act on it.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 69cj
Once again, the cooling system not being properly cleaned would be my first guess. Lots of junk can hibernate in the bottom of the radiator and then break loose. And yes, the gold has been a source due to silicate fallout but, not in 10,000 miles with a properly cleaned system.
Everything was new, even radiator, but will be double damn sure it is all flushed before anything else is put on it!
 
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Originally Posted by geekwithoutacause
Once again, There IS gold coolant failure BECAUSE the cooler is clogging up. It's a domino effect. First the cooler clogs due to junk in the system. Then the coolant overheats in the egr cooler because there isn't sufficient flow. Due to this overheating the coolant fails and clogs the cooler even more. This isn't just simply one failure. It's a chain reaction that eventually results in heads lifted and total destruction of the engine.
Keeping an eye on the Deltas is a good way to halt the chain reaction if you act on it.
I can buy the cause and reaction statement. If you remember my 1st statement, Properly cleaned system.
 
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