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Neutral Safety Switch

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Red with blue stripe is your neutral safety wire. All harnesses have same connector. You switch needs to go to these wires. Put any switch there.
It’s the wire that goes to front terminal of your starter/relay/solenoid

 
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Originally Posted by Livewyre

Good afternoon fellow Ford guys and gals. I am rebuilding a 65 F100. I have a tilt steering column out of a 78 F250. The NSS is on the transmission of the donor truck. The tranny I have is a C6 out of a 79 Ford or such type car. The problem I have is not wiring, it is trying to find a spot to mount the NSS. As you can see in the picture there are no attachment points on the tranny or no nut on the shifting shaft to remove the shifting linkage. So the million dollar question is where can I mount it. I have seen where people will cut a slot in the steering column and mount it there. I have no measurements on where to start or what kind of actuator to use on the shifter shaft. Please throw me some info if you would please.
i have a late 70’s column in mine and there is a spot for switch.
 
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Originally Posted by Crop Duster
Carpenter and others sell the neutral safety switch and the transmission selector pin for 65-77 trucks. I'm sure you can adapt it to a 78 column with a little work. The trick will be to get the geometry just right on the shift linkage so all the stars line up and it will actually prevent it from starting in anything but Park or Neutral. If you don't have a chassis manual for something with a tilt column it would be a good time to find one. There isn't any difference between the cars and trucks as far as the tilt mechanism goes the only difference is the trucks don't have the key on the column. I rebuilt my 79 column using my 71 car manual.
Also did your column come from a two wheel drive truck? If it did and you got the rag joint adapter with it you are in good shape'. If not here is a link to one that should do the trick.https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/produc..._Flange_36-spl
The NSS selector lever is the same 1965/77, but 1965/66's use a different NSS than 1967/77.
 
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That is the cutout in the steering column that I was talking about. I was just wondering if the 78 column is the same on the inside where the actuator mounts. If so I need the measurements from where the rag joint mounts to the end of the steering column shaft. And how big the opening is. Then I would also have to make an actuator.
 
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Did you have to cut a hole in the column? If so do you still have the measurements from the end of the rag joint to the bottom of the hole. Also how big is the hole and is it cut out on the top of the steering column tube?
 
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The NSS selector lever (D0TZ-7B097-B replaced C5TZ-7B097-A) fits thru a hole in the steering column shroud, then attaches to the shift tube (7212 in pic).

7B097 selector lever & 7A247 NSS shown at lower right in 1964/72 truck parts catalog pic:

 
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Thanks N.D. But do you have the same break down for a 78 F250 column?
 
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Originally Posted by Livewyre
Thanks N.D. But do you have the same break down for a 78 F250 column?
No, because there's no hole in the shroud or on the shift tube, because the NSS is located on the trans 1978/79.

Pic: There's no NSS or selector lever for 1978/79.

 
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Thanks Sir. So even if I cut a hole in the steering column shaft, there is no way to mount the actuator in the column?
 
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Originally Posted by Livewyre
Thanks Sir. So even if I cut a hole in the steering column shaft, there is no way to mount the actuator in the column?
You will have to modify your column. There have been a lot of threads dealing with that column try an advanced search. Plus you are in modified territory now and are going to have to do most of your own engineering. Here is the helpful hints page from Flashback F100's website Flashback F100's - Helpful Hints PagesThis page will contain many hints, tricks and things to beware of in your search of parts if looking on the internet, swap meet, salvage yard or another dealerOne hint not related to parts, BUT on purchasing
You could give him a call and see if he knows of a combination of parts that might work together. I think your best bet is to wait until your cab is finished and back on the frame because the column is going to have to go in and out a couple of times to get it all figured out and weld on your original dash to column bracket.
 
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You might also keep in mind the length of your column you want to use. Not a lot of room between the steering wheel and 'you'...
 
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