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Of course I have a 6 L and I'm having issues with my Delta. My truck never sees a load and primarily gets used as a work vehicle. I'm a financial planner so I never carry more than a box of files.
I monitored my Delta today for about 20 miles and I only got two readings for my ECT 181.5 and 179.6. It seems odd to me that the oil would move around and obviously the delta in my torque app would move around but that coolant would be that stable.
in my reading I read that if the ECT sensor goes out the computer will throw a value in there for the purpose of keeping the fuel injection going. I do not have any check engine lights but I am starting to get concerned about deltas. However shouldn't I be getting much warmer coolant than that? Also shouldn't I get more than two numbers monitoring it for that period Of time? Has anyone else noticed this issue? If I was seeing the 185 I saw on a friend's truck my Delta spread would only be 6 or 7.
Last edited by conig; May 3, 2018 at 11:47 AM.
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If you don't mind my asking, what's the financial planning logic behind the Powerstroke 6.0L diesel truck for that task?
I'd be really interested to hear this from a numbers person.
Because we WANT to drive a truck, Mike If everyone drove what they NEEDED, Ford would hardly sell any trucks anymore. Definitely wouldn't be rolling Platinums off the lot so fast.
to really understand that you would have to know what i paid and how I acquired the truck. Basically I can roll out anytime and make ten grand. I do this often in the used market.
I get 18mpg the way I use it, 4wd is a must have because of the clients i serve (think thousands of acres of trees and plantations)
i have ran multi year cash flow analysis models, even after replacing the oil cooler a new honda accord( ex) impacts my networth to the negative by double the acquisition cost. I do substantially more keeping funds invested then buying something else.
You have to look at the sunken cost of replacement very few things can I buy for 15k outright. Even an oil cooler is the cost of 3 payments on anything I would buy "new". Understand my situation is not yours and my numbers may not carry across to others.
My largest client came to me as a referral after getting a multi million dollar contract with the military. When I pulled up he said "thank god your not another one of these audi guys". So it works for me.
Me too. That's why I have a really nice GAS truck daily driver. And I don't try to write it off on my taxes as a work vehicle.
But this is a financial planner's WORK diesel truck and he doesn't load or tow with it. And we can assume reading ECT/EOT he's not in federal prison for income tax evasion.
There is no financial planning for driving a 6.0 on a daily basis for a personal truck. It’s called you pay to play. I fell in love with the size and the power in 2006 when i bought mine in 2006 new. I still have a fascination with the 6.0. Do I need a truck like this “NO” do I love and want a truck like this “YES”
It’s probaly the last diesel that the average guy can get his hands dirty on. I’m retired and am enjoying teaching my overly educated grandsons about the trucks and they are enjoying it. Mike, life is not always about the money. Ok. Thats my speach for the day
Anymore questions?
Because we WANT to drive a truck, Mike If everyone drove what they NEEDED, Ford would hardly sell any trucks anymore. Definitely wouldn't be rolling Platinums off the lot so fast.
(I'm a numbers guy, I feel allowed to answer)
Makes about as much sense as my 18 year old driving one, and his group of seven friends that all have either a 6.0 or a Dmax.
Does it make sense? Not really since we bought it before he even turned 16, but he wanted a diesel and he wanted a 6.0 and had most of the money saved for it.
We've spent some quality time together working on his. He replaced the turbo on his friends 05 last week, the only thing I did was diagnose and show him the old one was caput.
Owning a 6.0 has only fed his love of working on vehicles for others, and plans to go to tech school this fall.
It's crazy how many folks drive diesel pickups that don't really need to, but then the same things applies to the guys that drive an Audi or a Beemer.
Hence the reason Ford announced the other day they are dropping pretty much all the sedans and focusing on the truck and SUV/cross over lines(not that I think it's a wise move)
you guys are proving why financial planning is so important. You are taking your observations and personal experience and projecting it on others. All while not understanding each persons unique situations.
In the 2 years I have had this truck i have replaced front shocks, stabilizer, blue spring, changed the oil and filters plus put 100 a week of fuel in it. To this point the maintenance has not been that bad, the ford explorer before likely would have had its third transmission by now if I kept it. I did 75 a week in fuel on it.
After replacing an oil cooler my numbers may change.
A vehicle thats paid for, dealer maintained with history, that i paid pennys on the dollar for works in my plans.
Most people in my business lease bmw, audis and the like to seem more successful. ie they lie.
I tell the truth, have the same struggles many of my clients have, and run an extremly low over head model to pass the savings on. This truck for ME has met that criteria. Its at 225k and if I keep it to 500k, with luck, I will save significant dollars over a replacement.
I use my truck personally, I have three kids and a dog. We easily fill the excursion up while camping. having a personal and work vehicle would cost significantly more. 2 sets of insurance, 2 sets od oil changes etc.
Conig figured it right for his needs....I like that!!!
Myself...the main reason I purchased a 6.0 was fuel milage. I 90% use it to commute and it does better than anything I've had in the last 20 years. Yes I've spent money on heads and a few upgrades but it's paid for. My only oooppppssss I didn't figure in were the oil changes...they are expensive lol
Conig figured it right for his needs....I like that!!!
Myself...the main reason I purchased a 6.0 was fuel milage. I 90% use it to commute and it does better than anything I've had in the last 20 years. Yes I've spent money on heads and a few upgrades but it's paid for. My only oooppppssss I didn't figure in were the oil changes...they are expensive lol
yeah, people comment the gas must be bad, my response is no but the oil changes are ridiculous.
CFPs... sucking the fun out of life CPAs just say "yeah, sure, spent it, it's yours, w/e. Tax return will be $3,250 this year".
So when you say you only saw the two readings, you mean that when you just happened to look at it that's what you saw, right? Not like it sat like a rock at 181.5 and you watched it not move as other things did?
I've seen reports on other boards that when the ECT sensor is unplugged, the PCM defaults to 212*f for ECT and EOT. When EOT is unplugged, ECT is used for both values. Your situation just sounds more like a weak tstat opening up about 20*f early, which is a very common 6.0 issue.
I had logging on, but also watched it. it sat at that reading like a stone. I have noticed it doesnt update nearly as frequent as the others even when it is moving.
i wasnt on a hill despite that graphic the mount was twisted.
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If everyone drove what they NEEDED, Ford would hardly sell any trucks anymore. Definitely wouldn't be rolling Platinums off the lot so fast.
