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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 10:17 AM
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Dually conversion

Been wanting to get duals on my truck ever since I have gotten it, I am a high school kid so I of course just want my truck to look cool I guess . Bought the truck with a flatbed and just don't like the fact that my tires are a foot or two in from the edge of the bed. It is an 84 f250, found a 90s (bricknose) f250 with duals in junkyard, was wondering if I would need to get the whole axle or if I could just get the wheels and bolt them on. But I doubt that would work Just want to know the options.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 02:37 PM
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Not that easy of course. Be careful looking in the junkyard at dually trucks. There are cab and chassis dually trucks, and then there are dually pickups. The cab and chassis pickups have a special narrow frame, with narrow leaf springs and a oddball narrow dually rear axle. This is so industry standard utility beds, dump beds, etc will fit. But these will not fit your pickup, your frame is wider.

You need a dually pickup rearend. It will be 4 inches wider than a single rear wheel pickup so when the dually rims are put on they do not hit the frame rail. I guess you have also seen the adapters you can buy to convert yours.

Then you need to convert the front. You did not say if you had 4x4 or not. If you have 4x4 you need to see if you have a dana 44hd ttb or a dana 50 ttb front axle. Ford made adapters that fit the dana 50 and the dana 60 straight front axles. And of course they make aftermarket adapters also.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 07:41 PM
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Why convert the front? Yes to do it right he should, but if he just wants to fill up under the flatbed, and if funds are low. I say just do the rear.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 07:52 PM
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Ok, so every truck that had factory duals has a narrower frame? Or did I just completely read that wrong? So even if I got the whole axle my frame would be too wide and it wouldn't fit? And if I were to do it right how would I?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan656
Ok, so every truck that had factory duals has a narrower frame? Or did I just completely read that wrong?
You're reading it wrong; every Cab & Chassis truck has a narrower frame, making the axles different.

You need to find a pickup truck with a dually rear axle - or use the aftermarket adapter things.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
You're reading it wrong; every Cab & Chassis truck has a narrower frame, making the axles different.

You need to find a pickup truck with a dually rear axle - or use the aftermarket adapter things.
Ok, that makes much more sense. So it is a pickup, so the axle would fit?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2018 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan656
Ok, that makes much more sense. So it is a pickup, so the axle would fit?
If you are sure it's a pickup, yes it will fit. Double check the type of rearend. If one of the rearends has a fill plug in the back cover, it is a dana rearend. If it doesn't have a fill plug in the back cover it is a Ford/Sterling rearend. If you are swapping different brands of rearends, double check the snoot on the rearends with a measuring tape, you may need a longer or short driveshaft if there is too much difference in the rearend pinion area depth.

If you are doing this conversion for looks, you had better swap the front also. Running regular rims on the front and dually rims on the rear is a dead giveaway to anyone you are trying to impress that it's a half-done conversion.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2018 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
If you are sure it's a pickup, yes it will fit. Double check the type of rearend. If one of the rearends has a fill plug in the back cover, it is a dana rearend. If it doesn't have a fill plug in the back cover it is a Ford/Sterling rearend. If you are swapping different brands of rearends, double check the snoot on the rearends with a measuring tape, you may need a longer or short driveshaft if there is too much difference in the rearend pinion area depth.

If you are doing this conversion for looks, you had better swap the front also. Running regular rims on the front and dually rims on the rear is a dead giveaway to anyone you are trying to impress that it's a half-done conversion.
Ok, talked to my dad about it and told me that I could the duals off of our 87 f250 that my uncle put the dual kit on. Yes, it will be a dead giveaway but I will be content with it. Just want to fill some space with the wheels. Thanks for the information
 
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Old Apr 5, 2018 | 05:24 PM
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84 F-350 Dually Flatbed w/4x4

I got this one which runs perfect. Good luck!


I've been told this was a converted pick-up. I have the 7.3l idi.
 

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Old Apr 5, 2018 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by J Scott
I got this one which runs perfect. Good luck!


I've been told this was a converted pick-up. I have the 7.3l idi.
Judging by the front wheels I'm guessing it was
 
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Is there an adapter that would run the front dually wheel/rim. Also, would that help it under a tow load? Or, is it just cosmetic? I'm not trying to impress anyone with this ole beast. Would that serve a functional purpose? Advice is appreciated!
 

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Originally Posted by J Scott
Is there an adapter that would run the front dually wheel/rim. Also, would that help it under a tow load? Or, is it just cosmetic? I'm not trying to impress anyone with this ole beast. Would that serve a functional purpose? Advice is appreciated!
Yes there is an adapter for the front it would not change any thing other than being able to use the same wheels at all 4 corners so basically cosmetic.
Adaptors, Wheels, Duality Fenders and Complete Kits - Arrowcraft :: Helping You Handle the Road for over 30 years!
 
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Here is the Ford version of the front adapter. The advantage is you only have to carry one spare tire/rim. The other way you need two spare tire/rims.

 
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Thanks, that makes sence.
 
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