Ford 400 / 351C / 351M Serpentine Conversion
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I believe the reason they called them serpentine belts is because they thread through the pullies back and forth like a snake (serpent) moves, not that the belts are ribbed. If you google the definition of serpentine it also says it's a dark green mineral, which kinda goes with your Buick green block, so it's definitely a serpentine setup in that aspect!
https://www.google.com/search?q=serp...hrome&ie=UTF-8
https://www.google.com/search?q=serp...hrome&ie=UTF-8
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The belts might be the same, but as far as I know the OE's never made a wide flat ribbed belt in a standard (all accessories turn in the same direction) orientation. The very word "serpentine" describes the circuitous route the belts take. They just happen to be the same flat, wide, multi-ribbed belts you're using. So we now know the belts themselves as serpentine belts because they are the same as those used in a true serpentine setup.
To be serpentine, there don't need to be tensioners and idlers to define it. They just turn out to be the best way sometimes to achieve the proper function. But to be serpentine, the belt(s) themselves have to go around in a "serpentine" (like a serpent/snake) configuration.
So to me, while you're using what we know as a serpentine belt, you've simply changed your V-shaped belt system to a flat-shaped belt system, but have not created a serpentine system.
But like was said, if you call it a serpentine, and look for serpentine belts of a certain length, everyone knows what you're looking for. The name won't likely confuse many, but I'm pretty sure it's not a serpentine system by definition.
Or we could just go with Peter Falk in the In-Laws and run around all crazy like and yelling "serpen-tyne" to avoid the bullets!
Paul
To be serpentine, there don't need to be tensioners and idlers to define it. They just turn out to be the best way sometimes to achieve the proper function. But to be serpentine, the belt(s) themselves have to go around in a "serpentine" (like a serpent/snake) configuration.
So to me, while you're using what we know as a serpentine belt, you've simply changed your V-shaped belt system to a flat-shaped belt system, but have not created a serpentine system.
But like was said, if you call it a serpentine, and look for serpentine belts of a certain length, everyone knows what you're looking for. The name won't likely confuse many, but I'm pretty sure it's not a serpentine system by definition.
Or we could just go with Peter Falk in the In-Laws and run around all crazy like and yelling "serpen-tyne" to avoid the bullets!
Paul
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Serpentine belt systems are about wrap, and you need a pulley on the outside of the belt in order to force more belt-wrap around any particular inside-the-loop pulley.
This can be done with an idler pulley or a tensioner pulley, or with an accessory pulley such as for a reverse-rotation waterpump, outside of the loop.
And just to split more peas: Is a tensioner pulley an idle pulley? Or does performing the task of tensioning the belt disqualify it from being idle?
We can get all of the fly crap out of this pepper if we try...
This can be done with an idler pulley or a tensioner pulley, or with an accessory pulley such as for a reverse-rotation waterpump, outside of the loop.
And just to split more peas: Is a tensioner pulley an idle pulley? Or does performing the task of tensioning the belt disqualify it from being idle?
We can get all of the fly crap out of this pepper if we try...
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1Ton:
No, I didn't remove the picture or the link....I've been having problems too with clicking on a thread where pictures are said to be there, but none show up. E mail links to the same are just as you described....nothing shows when I follow the link.
I did respond to one thread arlier today that the OP said he had included pictures...none showed up in the thread......when I hit the "QUOTE" button, ONE of two pictures showed up in the "reply" box.....but when I hit "post quick reply" NOTHING showed up of any pictures....just my type written word.
Try it ---hit the "Quote" button and see if my picture comes up in the reply box. Post up what you find?
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No, I didn't remove the picture or the link....I've been having problems too with clicking on a thread where pictures are said to be there, but none show up. E mail links to the same are just as you described....nothing shows when I follow the link.
I did respond to one thread arlier today that the OP said he had included pictures...none showed up in the thread......when I hit the "QUOTE" button, ONE of two pictures showed up in the "reply" box.....but when I hit "post quick reply" NOTHING showed up of any pictures....just my type written word.
Try it ---hit the "Quote" button and see if my picture comes up in the reply box. Post up what you find?
So, You and I are not alone in this charade of "New SITE Format".....I hit the "contact us" button and asked them, "WTF?" after I said my piece.