Notices
2011 - 2019 Explorer Discuss the 2011 to 2019 Explorer

Warrantee Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 11, 2018 | 10:59 AM
  #1  
crazy96863's Avatar
crazy96863
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,388
Likes: 138
From: Northern California
Warrantee Question

Noticed the paint bubbling up and even chipped off in a few areas on my hood; leading edge. Looks like corrosion underneath. Is this something that is usually covered by the factory warrantee? It’s a 2016 Black Explorer XLT. The hood appears to be aluminum as there is no magnetic attraction; the corrosion is the white powdery stuff you would expect from aluminum.

Thanks!
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2018 | 01:51 PM
  #2  
PupnDuck's Avatar
PupnDuck
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,464
Likes: 104
From: Staten Island, NY
I had the same problem with my '14 Sport. During the time I owned it, the dealer's attitude was that it was normal wear and tear (B.S.). It wasn't an uncommon situation. Lots of people had similar problems. But when I traded it I was afraid that the crappy looking hood would hurt trade-in value. The dealer didn't care. Told me they would just get the hood repainted. Apparently it was so common that they didn't even take it into consideration on the trade.

As for whether your dealer will repair it under warranty - some will, most won't. Apparently any rock chip on the hood that makes it thru the primer coat will start the corrosion process. Its even worse if you live in an area where they salt the roads or live near the ocean. I had both situations.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2018 | 02:05 PM
  #3  
crazy96863's Avatar
crazy96863
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,388
Likes: 138
From: Northern California
This isn’t from rock chips. My 2008 Fusion w/ over 200k doesn’t have this issue and it has pock marks all over from rocks. Plus I live in NorCal which is a very low corrosion area. My 75 F100 doesn’t even have corrossion bubbles in the paint.

Dont mean to come across as defensive. Kind of upset this is happening. Appreciate the reply.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2018 | 02:23 PM
  #4  
PupnDuck's Avatar
PupnDuck
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,464
Likes: 104
From: Staten Island, NY
Originally Posted by crazy96863
This isn’t from rock chips. My 2008 Fusion w/ over 200k doesn’t have this issue and it has pock marks all over from rocks. Plus I live in NorCal which is a very low corrosion area. My 75 F100 doesn’t even have corrossion bubbles in the paint.

Dont mean to come across as defensive. Kind of upset this is happening. Appreciate the reply.
I understand. I wasn't too happy when my Explorer hood started bubbling when the truck was 10 months old. Don't know about your Fusion but I'm pretty sure your F100 didn't have an aluminum hood with steel stiffening ribs attached to the underside. This is related to the aluminum construction and the switch to a water based paint which just doesn't seem to have the same film strength as the old solvent based paint.. Expedition owners had similar problems with tailgates. Ford seems to have figured it out finally. My '17 F150 is doing fine so far. No corrosion but the paint still seems to chip too easily.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2018 | 03:45 PM
  #5  
crazy96863's Avatar
crazy96863
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,388
Likes: 138
From: Northern California



Fusion is all steel. I understand the difference in materials. Just making the comparison there.

Here are a few pics. In the earliest stages but definitely noticeable. With only 6k left on the warrantee I need to go get this addressed ASAP.

 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2018 | 03:46 PM
  #6  
crazy96863's Avatar
crazy96863
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,388
Likes: 138
From: Northern California
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2018 | 03:47 PM
  #7  
crazy96863's Avatar
crazy96863
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,388
Likes: 138
From: Northern California
Some of these might be harder to see than others...
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2018 | 04:11 PM
  #8  
Aciancio's Avatar
Aciancio
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
From: Broken Arrow
Take it in and see what the dealer says, maybe try a second if you don't like the first ones awnser. I had to have my 13 explorer roof repainted because there was a unpainted line right up the center of it. The dealer didn't give me any trouble but that's a little different senecio.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 13, 2018 | 12:00 PM
  #9  
YoGeorge's Avatar
YoGeorge
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,512
Likes: 18
From: Detroit
This is an ongoing problem with Mustangs, Explorers, and Expeditions (prior to the 2018 redesign of the Expedition). You can see in Consumer Reports ratings on these models that after a couple years, the paint is rated as having "much worse than average" problems.

There is a TSB on how to prepare and repaint the hood and/or tailgates where the metal has to be ground down to bare metal, not contaminated with any iron particles (which is the source of the problem), prepped with a special primer.

If you are under 3 years and 36k miles you have a better chance of some kind of settlement. Ford did change their rust warranty to include aluminum "corrosion" in 2015, presumably because of the aluminum body on the F150, and it does not require holes in the aluminum to be considered a legit problem Point to this language in the rust warranty, go to multiple dealers, and escalate if you have the patience.

I had considered an Expedition and this problem is one of the reasons I crossed it off my list. The problem has existed since 2003 and it is pitiful that Ford cannot do better. Many brands of cars (including other Ford models) have aluminum hoods and tailgates and do not have this problem. They apparently let paint companies set up the spray booths in their factories for these vehicles and in addition to iron contamination, do not spray the paint with adequate thickness.

I'm a major Ford fan but this is corporate incompetence at work and Ford does seem to understand the value of keeping customers happy if they want them to continue being Ford customers.
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2018 | 11:20 AM
  #10  
PupnDuck's Avatar
PupnDuck
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,464
Likes: 104
From: Staten Island, NY
Apparently this sort of problem is not limited to Ford and I do believe it has a lot to do with the current water based paint technology. I was talking to my brother in law yesterday. He leased a new Chevy Silverado about two months ago (can you believe, a Chevy!) and just noticed the paint bubbling the size of a quarter on the rear quarter panel. Since he didn't want the dealer claiming that he damaged it when the lease is up - three years from now, he brought it back to the dealer. They immediately gave him a loner Equinox, took the truck and said they'd send it out to a body shop. He says they didn't seem surprised.

I've been buying new trucks for a long time and can remember only one time that a manufacturer had widespread paint problems - Dodge had some serious clear coat problems on their trucks in the 80's. It used to peel off in sheets.
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2018 | 11:59 AM
  #11  
YoGeorge's Avatar
YoGeorge
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,512
Likes: 18
From: Detroit
I had a silver 1978 F100 pickup, bought it new as my first brand new vehicle, and the paint came off in sheets when it was 6-8 years old. Quarter car wash wand started washing off swaths of paint....disgusting.

The Explorer, Mustang, and Expedition bubbling hood and tailgate problems are due to iron particle contamination in the aluminum during the build process and there is a TSB on how to properly fix them before a repaint. But Ford has not implemented this fix on the actual assembly line. Many other manufacturers build vehicles with aluminum panels and do not have this problem. This includes other Ford products that do not have problems.

This is a ridiculous problem for Ford to have on such a continued basis and they have and will lose customers over it. I have had my own issues with GM products and won't buy GM again unless I have reason to have a very high confidence level in the product I am considering.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JoeDirt68
1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator
13
Apr 16, 2021 02:43 PM
Hugha
2004 - 2008 F150
3
Jul 19, 2018 09:18 PM
bismic
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
17
Aug 24, 2010 06:51 PM
EZLariat
2004 - 2008 F150
5
Aug 1, 2004 06:37 PM
KING SADDIST
Paint & Bodywork
6
Jun 11, 2004 12:37 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:46 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE