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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 05:29 AM
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Towing Capability

I have a 2017 F250 XLT with towing package 6.2L . Specs say the truck is rated to pull a loaded trailer with a weight of 12500 Lbs. Would I be crazy to pull a loaded trailer with a weight of 14500 Lbs. I'd be doing this about 6 times a year from spring to fall.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 06:02 AM
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Farm trailer? 45mph at 5 AM? Or camper on the hwy?

You can beef up the rear of the truck with airbags and use bandaid WD hitches to get the truck as stout as an F350. But even a 350 would struggle with that much weight.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 06:47 AM
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Crazy would be pulling it with a Tacoma. That's just stretching the ratings a bit. Considering the stopping ability is the most critical issue in hauling safely and I believe 6.2's have the same brakes, I wouldn't be too worried about the safety. You'll just be slow getting up to speed.

BUT, if you had an at fault accident any halfway cogent ambulance chaser would stretch your angus all out of shape in court.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 07:08 AM
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This would be a 32' gooseneck trailer with 2- 7000Lb axles with electric brakes. Mostly Hwy driving. Load is 2 modified jeep wranglers.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 07:21 AM
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If you have the 4:30 gears, you'd be within spec which I'm assuming you don't. Those two wranglers weight that much? Or heavy trailer and gear too?
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 07:49 AM
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I know nothing about 6.2s but interested to see where this goes... subscribing
 
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 08:11 AM
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An F-250 has the same exact frame as an F-350 dually, and likely a 450 pickup as well. Same brakes as a 350 dually. Same front axle as a 350 dually. Same rear axle as 350 gas of this generation, or a 350 diesel of the previous generation. So the basic platform is perfectly capable. Your problems are essentially rear suspension and engine power. A 250 has a max GVWR of 10k, which...when you subtract out the trucks curb weight, leaves less payload than a 350 SRW (essentially the same truck with stiffer rear springs) that has a GVWR of 11,400lbs. The payload on a 250 is less, which is a limiter on towing based on tongue weight alone. Then there is the 6.2L. Perfectly capable engine, but pulling 14k with a gas engine is going to be a struggle on hills. I wouldn't say you are crazy, but if you can't keep the speed limit on hills, make sure to put your 4-ways on when going up the hill.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 08:27 AM
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So what does the "towing package" get you? I don't see that option on the build website. Just curious.

Liability would be my concern, that is why I dumped my 06 Dodge 2500, my RV is 14K, it was rated at 12,400. That's what I tell my wife anyway
 
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 08:32 AM
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This is one of those things that really bothers me about the SD trucks. The Ram 2500/3500 w/Cummins are all rated to tow right about 17k from either bumper or bed. But the SD trucks, 12-15k, even in a 350. I don't get why the ratings are so low compared to the Ram. Makes me wonder what, specifically, changed the rating between the trucks. I will feel like I'm taking a hit in capability if I buy a Super Duty.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 09:21 AM
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I second what troverman stated about the trucks basically being the same as far as frames axels and brakes. Except, I wouldn’t worry for a second about the 6.2 not being able to pull a 14-15,000 pound trailer! Axel ratio makes a big difference and I don’t know what axels are in your truck but I have 4.30’s and pull that kind of weight all the time without a problem. Plus I have a few thousand pounds of tools,fuel and other crap in the bed of the truck too. I did the same things with my old 2011 that had a 6.2 with 3.73 axel ratios but the 2017 does it better.
 
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A 2017 F-250 diesel crew 4x4 will tow 17,600 if you opt for the high capacity tow package. Both RAM and Ford have roughly the same payload capacity on a 3/4-ton diesel crew cab, and Ford offers the same tow rating with either 3.31 or 3.55 axle on the 250. Ram offers only a 3.42. The reason for the towing difference is max combined weight rating (GCWR) which Ford rates lower unless you opt for the high capacity tow pack.
 
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Originally Posted by Snowman 8
I second what troverman stated about the trucks basically being the same as far as frames axels and brakes. Except, I wouldn’t worry for a second about the 6.2 not being able to pull a 14-15,000 pound trailer! Axel ratio makes a big difference and I don’t know what axels are in your truck but I have 4.30’s and pull that kind of weight all the time without a problem. Plus I have a few thousand pounds of tools,fuel and other crap in the bed of the truck too. I did the same things with my old 2011 that had a 6.2 with 3.73 axel ratios but the 2017 does it better.
Like I said, I wouldn't call him crazy...just be prepared to go slow up the hills, especially with the 3.73 gears. I've pulled 10k with my 3.73 gas truck...up steep hills, it was...slow. But that's OK.
 
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Like I said, I wouldn't call him crazy...just be prepared to go slow up the hills, especially with the 3.73 gears. I've pulled 10k with my 3.73 gas truck...up steep hills, it was...slow. But that's OK.
I wouldn’t even call them slow. Just mash the go pedal to the floor, let the transmission downshift and let that 6.2 sing a little.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JimHov
I have a 2017 F250 XLT with towing package 6.2L . Specs say the truck is rated to pull a loaded trailer with a weight of 12500 Lbs. Would I be crazy to pull a loaded trailer with a weight of 14500 Lbs. I'd be doing this about 6 times a year from spring to fall.
You are exceeding the manufacturer's recommended towing capacity by a significant amount.

What about road and weather conditions?

What if you have to make an evasive maneuver? Sudden stop? What if you have an accident?

I personally would not do it.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bitNine
This is one of those things that really bothers me about the SD trucks. The Ram 2500/3500 w/Cummins are all rated to tow right about 17k from either bumper or bed. But the SD trucks, 12-15k, even in a 350. I don't get why the ratings are so low compared to the Ram. Makes me wonder what, specifically, changed the rating between the trucks. I will feel like I'm taking a hit in capability if I buy a Super Duty.
I'm curious where your're getting your information. If you read the towing guide the SRW PS trucks top out at 18K bumper pull and over 20K gooseneck/5th wheel. For licensing purposes you can get a de-rated SD that would pull less.
 
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