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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 08:39 PM
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Dying Problems

Hey guys,

First time posting on here and I have a question. I own a 1985 F250 460 2WD with a 4Barrel Carburetor.

Recently have done a bunch of work to it and ran into a problem of my truck dying after it has been running for maybe 10 to 15 min. After it dies sometime it will fire up immediately, while other times it may take 5min.

Also thought fuel might be boiling so I have moved the fuel line but nothing changed.

Any ideas?

​​​​​​​Recently done: New hooker headers, full tune up (w/ cap and rotor), Ignition Control Module, Water Pump, Radiator, New Edelbrock Carb
 
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 02:04 AM
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Welcome to the forum.

Need more details. Can you describe “dying”.

Running out of gas dying, flooding, or more like turning off the key dying?

If you have stock electric fuel pumps they deliver about 8 psi which can be too much for an Eddie carb. Maybe you need a pressure regulator to get it down to 6 psi? Also check float levels.

Gut says ignition. If there wasn’t anything wrong with the old ignition module swap it back in and see if the problem goes away. From there, a coil can act up hot and so can the magnetic pickups inside the distributor.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 07:46 AM
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Agree with Brnfree's queerie about the ICM. What led you to believe it was bad?

The truck "dying" that you describe are classic symptoms of an ICM gone south. Other symptoms could be present but, again, what led you to change out the old ICM?


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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Brnfree
Welcome to the forum.

Need more details. Can you describe “dying”.

Running out of gas dying, flooding, or more like turning off the key dying?

If you have stock electric fuel pumps they deliver about 8 psi which can be too much for an Eddie carb. Maybe you need a pressure regulator to get it down to 6 psi? Also check float levels.

Gut says ignition. If there wasn’t anything wrong with the old ignition module swap it back in and see if the problem goes away. From there, a coil can act up hot and so can the magnetic pickups inside the distributor.
Motor loses power slowly. sometimes I can pop it into neutral and feather the engine to keep it alive but most of the time it dies. the truck does run fine on short distances.
 
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Originally Posted by Filthy Beast
Agree with Brnfree's queerie about the ICM. What led you to believe it was bad?

The truck "dying" that you describe are classic symptoms of an ICM gone south. Other symptoms could be present but, again, what led you to change out the old ICM?


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The whole reason I changed the ICM was due to this problem I am having with it. The ICM I took out was actually the original Duraspark and the silicon gel inside of it had completely melted away.
 
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You have a fairly complex fuel system with return lines. How did you handle all that with the new carb? You also have a oil pressure switch and a relay to keep the fuel pumps running.

If you look over at your starter solenoid, you should have a blue wire coming off the "I" terminal. This gives power to the fuel pumps during cranking. If you take this wire off and jump it to the battery +, the pumps should run all the time. Then you can take it for a test run and see if it still stalls out.
 
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
You have a fairly complex fuel system with return lines. How did you handle all that with the new carb? You also have a oil pressure switch and a relay to keep the fuel pumps running.

If you look over at your starter solenoid, you should have a blue wire coming off the "I" terminal. This gives power to the fuel pumps during cranking. If you take this wire off and jump it to the battery +, the pumps should run all the time. Then you can take it for a test run and see if it still stalls out.
Careful. In the run circuit the power to the fuel pumps is stepped down through a resistor wire however the bypass wire (from the I terminal of the starter solenoid) provides a full 12 volts to the fuel pumps temporarily while the engine is cranking. This bypass wire is protected with a 20 gauge fusible link and if you hot wire the bypass you can burn up the link... or if the fusible link protection has been removed from the bypass circuit you can burn up wiring.

Maybe it’s coincidence but after running 10 minutes the choke should just about be open. Don’t know much about tuning Eddies but curious if it’s somehow too lean with the choke off?

Otherwise it’s probably not the pickup inside the distributor because when they act up the motor quits like you turned off the key. A bad coil might idle okay but start missing and cutting out under a load.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 06:27 PM
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I finally figured out what it was. I replaced the coil and the same thing kept happening. Finally pulled the fuel pump and upon further inspection it was clogging up due to what I would assume to be rust in the gas tank.

Thanks for yalls help!
 
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