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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 01:49 PM
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I have owned my truck since 22k and now 197k. It as 6.0 trans cooler since 50K. I tow and have never had any Trans issues. I have the trans flushed every 30k but I have never dropped the pan. I know the filter is more a fine screen than it is a filter but I would like to get a look at the pan magnet just for curiosity.

I want to get everything I need before I start and will replace the filter since I am dropping the pan but am I going to need to buy a Pan gasket? Are they reusable after 197k miles?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 02:11 PM
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Yes the pan seal is reusable. No need to change the filter because they are a lifetime filter according to Ford.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 03:17 PM
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Yes the pan seal is reusable. No need to change the filter because they are a lifetime filter according to Ford.
Here is the filter if you decide you want to replace it.

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Gasket is reusable as stated above.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 04:13 PM
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I recall hearing from a reputable source that if the filter is bad you have bigger problems. They are reusable.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 05:07 PM
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To be quite honest,

If I may, if you indeed have that flushed and renewed every 30 k............

Are you having a problem with the trans performance?

How does the fluid look?

If you have no performance problems and just want to check out your plug, wait til your next interval and be Johney on the spot when it's pulled.

If it's running right and it AIN'T broke, don't tamper. Check it, fill it and salute it!

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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 1L243
I have owned my truck since 22k and now 197k. I have the trans flushed every 30k but I have never dropped the pan. I would like to get a look at the pan magnet just for curiosity.
I wish I had money to throw away like that!

Stewart
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 11:03 PM
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Well, I think your right. You know what they say about curiosity! I am not having a lick of problem with the trans so I think I will just let it go.

Yeah every 30k might be a bit of a overkill but cheap insurance. My old shop use to charge about $100 for a complete 15qt flush but Ford did it last time and it was a little more $173. Hey, it does have 197k on the trans and going strong....
 
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 07:22 AM
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As I've said before, the 4R100 has gotten a "Bad Rap" in Forums.

The majority of failures are a result of poor maintenance and exceeding the recommended use parameters. I assume your's is still running strong, just as mine with 250k because of Maintenance and non-abuse usage.

If you're curious, the Job is not difficult and can be done in about an hour-and-a-half.

TIP: USE A TORQUE WRENCH on the Pan Bolts! I could have a really nice Lunch if I had a Dollar for everyone I've drilled, tapped, and repaired. And I never did Transmission Work perse'.

What I know about Automatic Transmissions wouldn't fill a Thimble.

17 Qts of Mercon V or equivalent (draining the Torque Converter. I don't know if your's has a Plug or not). Otherwise 10 will do if you're not flushing the system.

1 Filter - There is a Short and Long Stem. I forget what one uses what - perhaps someone can recall. Currently, I forget to pull it out before I pee at my age.

Some sockets and a 1/4" drive Ratchet to check the Torque of internals.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pirschwagon
1 Filter - There is a Short and Long Stem. I forget what one uses what - perhaps someone can recall.
IIRC the "long stem" is for the 4x4 trucks. The pan is a little deeper.

Originally Posted by pirschwagon
Some sockets and a 1/4" drive Ratchet to check the Torque of internals.
If you do drop the pan I recommend checking the feed bolts. Some might have loosened over the years. I believe you have to drop the valve body to do that though.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pirschwagon
1 Filter - There is a Short and Long Stem. I forget what one uses what - perhaps someone can recall.
Originally Posted by brian42
IIRC the "long stem" is for the 4x4 trucks. The pan is a little deeper.
That was true with the E4OD. All 4R100s, with the exception of the Lightning, use the deep pan for both 4x2 and 4x4. So if you have a 4R100 get the filter for the deep pan that has the longer pickup tube.

Originally Posted by brian42
If you do drop the pan I recommend checking the feed bolts. Some might have loosened over the years. I believe you have to drop the valve body to do that though.
Yes, you do have to remove the valve body to get to the feed bolts.
 
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