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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 07:24 PM
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he said wont crank from the ignition, but will crank and start if he jumps the relay.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 08:08 PM
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Sorry about the confusion, I think I was creating new issues while trying to remedy the original issue.
Ok, I figured out the not cranking with the key, apparently a 4 post relay needs a ground.
No, the steering wheel or column won’t move around.
But there is no voltage on both large posts when key is turned to on position. I’m going to change out the gpr and see if it will start.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 08:46 PM
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So, we are cranking
But now it won’t start, correct?
No voltage on either large post on the gpr?
One should have 12v all the time. If not, you have a wiring problem
 
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 08:25 AM
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yes it is now cracking, but I’m only getting voltage on one of the large gpr posts with key on
 
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 09:15 AM
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Try jumping the GP relay for 10-15 seconds. If that helps it start, you still have some troubleshooting to do, but at least there's more intel.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 09:50 AM
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GPR is not required to start.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 10:47 AM
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^^^^ In TN, maybe. But unless the OP is also in the south, with no GPs and no block heater, he'll be cranking for a LONG time.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 12:07 PM
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^^^^ In TN, maybe. But unless the OP is also in the south, with no GPs and no block heater, he'll be cranking for a LONG time.
****, it gets down to 30 or less here at night. but I was still able to start with only 3 out of 8 glow plugs.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 12:44 PM
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Well it’s a balmy 21 degrees right now in northern Michigan, the warmest its been in months. the block heater is plugged in. I won’t have much opportunity to mess with it today, at my godson’s 1st b-day party with the wife and kids, then we are dropping the kids off at the grandparents and the wife and I are going out for her birthday. I’ll get back with you boys tomorrow and let you know if I get it going
 
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad ORourke
Sorry about the confusion, I think I was creating new issues while trying to remedy the original issue.
Ok, I figured out the not cranking with the key, apparently a 4 post relay needs a ground.

Yep, wrong relay but it should work OK.

No, the steering wheel or column won’t move around.
But there is no voltage on both large posts when key is turned to on position. I’m going to change out the gpr and see if it will start.
Originally Posted by Brad ORourke
yes it is now cracking, but I’m only getting voltage on one of the large gpr posts with key on

Which is it, with key in pocket there should be voltage on one large terminal all the times.

Be sure the new starter relay has the correct wires going to the correct posts. Generally one big post has all the wires going to it including battery wire. The other post should only have a single big wire going down to the starter solenoid. Conflicting statements make troubleshooting hard, No insult intended. Many on here have wired up the starter relay incorrectly when changing it out causing mass confusion.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad ORourke
Well it’s a balmy 21 degrees right now in northern Michigan, the warmest its been in months. the block heater is plugged in. I won’t have much opportunity to mess with it today, at my godson’s 1st b-day party with the wife and kids, then we are dropping the kids off at the grandparents and the wife and I are going out for her birthday. I’ll get back with you boys tomorrow and let you know if I get it going


You'll be to tired! lol I don't miss winters in Michigan.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 02:20 PM
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Well I should be all set, finally got around to working on it again, after I replaced the gpr, it started up. Thanks for all the help fellas!

Hey oldbird, is your profile pic from the ossineke area?
 
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No, its south of Phoenix in a rest area off of I 8. Stay warm! I was born and raised in Detroit so I know about winter, lol.
 
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