IBC
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If it came with a Factory installed ITBC you're OK,Its the one installed at the dealer that has the Problem, they thought the 2015-2017 is interchangeable with a 2018 It has a Different part number and i found out they still don't have it out yet they say early Spring, I'll keep you guys posted.
#5
Is the IBC the same as the Trailer Brake Controller? I understand the part number for the 2018 F150 is JL3Z-2C006-AA but the main problem is that some trucks don't have a fuse in the section of the fuse box that supplies the 12 volts the harness. Since that voltage isn't there you get a fault.
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Apparently some trucks have it and others don't but there's no rhyme or reason to which ones have it or not. Easy fix is to wire the controller, either the factory one or the aftermarket Prodigy, directly to the battery, or wait for Ford to figure out how to fix the issue.
I also read you can buy a new fuse box for a couple hundred dollars but why pay for something where Ford dropped the ball? I'm not doing that.
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Once Ford figures out how they're going to deal with it, if it's replacing the entire fuse box then I'll take mine back in. If it's adding a relay then mine is already done. Either way it's not costing me a penny and they gave me a new car as a loaner. To be continued....
#10
UPDATE: The dealer calls me this morning and tells me that I have to take the controller to them for them to install for a small fee of $400 !!!!!
I told them I just need to have power in the harness and they said they have to flash the ECM and that takes an hour. I told them it takes 5 minutes, so they told me they charge 1 hour minimum.
Remember this is a brand new truck that I still haven't even received from them. I bought it Saturday, they had me come in Monday to pick it up. I told them about not having the fuse so they gave me a loaner car. I still haven't received my new truck.
I told him I'm getting upset and I'm thinking of just not accepting a defective truck. To me it's like if you buy the truck and show up to pick it up and it has a crashed fender, you don't accept it. Well I bought a truck with the towing package to tow and if I can't stop the truck when towing then I don't need the truck.
As I'm writing this I get a text from the dealer telling me that his tech told him "He is saying he can flash and fix just needs the brake controller". So I might take it to them and see what other excuse they come up with. Then again they have plenty of controllers there in stock, why not just use one of those? I'm going to suggest that to him. I'll keep you all informed...
I told them I just need to have power in the harness and they said they have to flash the ECM and that takes an hour. I told them it takes 5 minutes, so they told me they charge 1 hour minimum.
Remember this is a brand new truck that I still haven't even received from them. I bought it Saturday, they had me come in Monday to pick it up. I told them about not having the fuse so they gave me a loaner car. I still haven't received my new truck.
I told him I'm getting upset and I'm thinking of just not accepting a defective truck. To me it's like if you buy the truck and show up to pick it up and it has a crashed fender, you don't accept it. Well I bought a truck with the towing package to tow and if I can't stop the truck when towing then I don't need the truck.
As I'm writing this I get a text from the dealer telling me that his tech told him "He is saying he can flash and fix just needs the brake controller". So I might take it to them and see what other excuse they come up with. Then again they have plenty of controllers there in stock, why not just use one of those? I'm going to suggest that to him. I'll keep you all informed...
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Quick question: When they flash the ECM to turn on the TBC, can I replace the factory controller with another one, or is it flashed with the factory controller's serial number, if it has one?
LATEST UPDATE :
I spoke with the service director and he says he can't do anything until I give them my controller and I pay them $125 for flashing. I told him once that's done nothing will happen because there won't be any power from the controller harness. He tells me then they can open a case with Ford.
So I have to accept a defective truck that I can't install a controller so I can't pull a heavy load, the main reason I bought a Ford truck over other brands, and on top of that I have to pay them so they can confirm what Ford already knows but doesn't tell the dealers.
I have requested a meeting with their general manager. I met her Saturday when I was buying the truck and she seems like she has common sense. I'm going to ask her why can't the service department take one of the controllers they have in the parts department, flash the ECM and confirm if the harness has or doesn't have power? It would take them what, 15 minutes? If it has power then there's no problem but if it doesn't have power then I'm seriously inclined to not take delivery of the defective truck and cancel the purchase. If this is how I'm starting the relationship with this dealer then there are lots of other Ford dealers close to my home.
I paid for a tow package because I need a truck to tow. If I can't tow with it then I don't need it. I'll go buy a used truck and install a Prodigy controller and be done with this issue.
LATEST UPDATE :
I spoke with the service director and he says he can't do anything until I give them my controller and I pay them $125 for flashing. I told him once that's done nothing will happen because there won't be any power from the controller harness. He tells me then they can open a case with Ford.
So I have to accept a defective truck that I can't install a controller so I can't pull a heavy load, the main reason I bought a Ford truck over other brands, and on top of that I have to pay them so they can confirm what Ford already knows but doesn't tell the dealers.
I have requested a meeting with their general manager. I met her Saturday when I was buying the truck and she seems like she has common sense. I'm going to ask her why can't the service department take one of the controllers they have in the parts department, flash the ECM and confirm if the harness has or doesn't have power? It would take them what, 15 minutes? If it has power then there's no problem but if it doesn't have power then I'm seriously inclined to not take delivery of the defective truck and cancel the purchase. If this is how I'm starting the relationship with this dealer then there are lots of other Ford dealers close to my home.
I paid for a tow package because I need a truck to tow. If I can't tow with it then I don't need it. I'll go buy a used truck and install a Prodigy controller and be done with this issue.
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Integrated Brake Controller
Hi AeroCare,
I'm still waiting for my dealer to get the 2018 Controller, they said they don't stock it yet, So I still have the one for 2015-2017 in my truck and this one doesn't work, WOW someone is not taking this serious they know most aren't using there Travel Trailer now but will be Sooon,Prob in May or June but some have Trailers with Electric Brakes without that 12V to the Controller how can it work, Flashing the BCM isn't going to fix it.
I'm still waiting for my dealer to get the 2018 Controller, they said they don't stock it yet, So I still have the one for 2015-2017 in my truck and this one doesn't work, WOW someone is not taking this serious they know most aren't using there Travel Trailer now but will be Sooon,Prob in May or June but some have Trailers with Electric Brakes without that 12V to the Controller how can it work, Flashing the BCM isn't going to fix it.
#13
Hi AeroCare,
I'm still waiting for my dealer to get the 2018 Controller, they said they don't stock it yet, So I still have the one for 2015-2017 in my truck and this one doesn't work, WOW someone is not taking this serious they know most aren't using there Travel Trailer now but will be Sooon,Prob in May or June but some have Trailers with Electric Brakes without that 12V to the Controller how can it work, Flashing the BCM isn't going to fix it.
I'm still waiting for my dealer to get the 2018 Controller, they said they don't stock it yet, So I still have the one for 2015-2017 in my truck and this one doesn't work, WOW someone is not taking this serious they know most aren't using there Travel Trailer now but will be Sooon,Prob in May or June but some have Trailers with Electric Brakes without that 12V to the Controller how can it work, Flashing the BCM isn't going to fix it.
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Ok, so my dealer is stepping up. I spoke directly with the General Manager and she offered that if I pay for the part ( JL3Z-2C006-AA ) that she'll pay the labor to install it and flash it. We'll see what happens tomorrow when they can't find the 12v like I told them from the beginning.
ecoboost12 :
Part number JL3Z-19H332-AA is exactly the same Trailer Brake Controller you get when you order it as a factory installed option but it's the "accessory part number" for people like us who buy it later and install it ourselves versus paying more to have it factory installed. So most likely if you try to buy that part number they'll tell you it's not available yet so they can't order it.
The workaround is to order part number JL3Z-2C006-AA then they'll be able to order it because that's the part number for the controller they use when it's the factory equipped option.
Watch out for sellers on eBay that claim to have the TBC for 2015-18 in the title because that won't work and they know it so in the description they tell you it only works for 2015-17.
Here's one on eBay that works and it's also $40 less than what I paid for mine. Also if you call this seller and give them your VIN number they'll confirm if it'll work for your truck : https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-F-150-...19.m1438.l2649
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ecoboost12 :
Part number JL3Z-19H332-AA is exactly the same Trailer Brake Controller you get when you order it as a factory installed option but it's the "accessory part number" for people like us who buy it later and install it ourselves versus paying more to have it factory installed. So most likely if you try to buy that part number they'll tell you it's not available yet so they can't order it.
The workaround is to order part number JL3Z-2C006-AA then they'll be able to order it because that's the part number for the controller they use when it's the factory equipped option.
Watch out for sellers on eBay that claim to have the TBC for 2015-18 in the title because that won't work and they know it so in the description they tell you it only works for 2015-17.
Here's one on eBay that works and it's also $40 less than what I paid for mine. Also if you call this seller and give them your VIN number they'll confirm if it'll work for your truck : https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-F-150-...19.m1438.l2649
.