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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 05:50 AM
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Unhappy Brake Issues

My truck (2015, F250 long bed crew cab, 52,800 miles) is at the dealer for a check up. They said I needed new front brake pads (3/32), rear ok (8/32). I did not have a problem with replacing the pads and cutting the rotors. Then after doing that they said I need new calipers. I've never had to replace the calipers at 52000 miles. Does anyone know if this is normal or did they screw something up when they replaced the pads? Before taking to the shop the brakes showed no signs of a problem.

Any ideas will be appreciated for the 70 year newbie to this forum.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 06:01 AM
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Get another opinion on it. If same diagnosis, then maybe you may need new calipers
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 06:40 AM
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Definitely get another opinion.
It sounds to me like you may have had a dragging pad and they monkey fisted it.
Here's a pretty good vid on some quick diags for the calipers.

 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 06:44 AM
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anything is possible..

maybe one is leaking..
piston is not retracting smoothly...

my 2012 are original @ 156,000 miles...

have them explain the reason. and SHOW YOU...
some shops do a caliper replacement.. BECAUSE.
they do not want to push possible crud back into ABS system.. "not real"... my opinion

NO, I did not do the poll.. to little information.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 07:34 AM
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Thanks guys for the feed back and video. Good info, I guess I just don't understand why they need replaced at 52,000 miles. Anytime I have had to replace the calipers in the past the vehicles had over 100,000 miles and that was only on 2 vehicles out of a dozen or more. I guess I've been lucky and that's why I'm having trouble with it.

Again, thanks for the feedback and video. Video was really good info.

Gene
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 08:18 AM
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I will not say the SDs are "plagued" with brake issues, but there seems to be a fair amount.
Personally, I think it is mostly about maintenance. When was the last time you took the time to check and grease the guide pins and pad clips/sliders with high temp nickel XL-2? I do it every time I rotate my tires-which is every oil change.
Maybe it is just me. I am kind of OCD when it comes to maintenance.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 08:33 AM
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I clean and lube brake parts every tire rotation...aka once a year...

the SD has clips.. that push the pads away from the rotors a very small amount... make sure they are doing there job...

if not.. the clips are bad.. OR caliper is sticking on pins..
or caliper needs replaced/rebuilt.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck's First Ford
I clean and lube brake parts every tire rotation...aka once a year...

the SD has clips.. that push the pads away from the rotors a very small amount... make sure they are doing there job...

if not.. the clips are bad.. OR caliper is sticking on pins..
or caliper needs replaced/rebuilt.
I have a 2015 F350 and just replaced the front pads at 70k miles. There were no "clips" that push the pads away from the rotors, only the clips that hold the pads in place. This seems to be something Ford was doing between 2009 and 2012 as my dad's F150 had these. It was a PITA until you figure out how to do it right (and an hour of failed attempts).

There is a video on youtube about changing the pads I watched which demonstrated greasing the guide pins so I did this in my repair also. No qualms here about compressing the wheel cylinder (slave cylinder, whatever you want to call it) and pushing the old brake fluid back up into the reservoir. After repair everything works great.

To OP: You shouldn't even need to "cut" the rotors on a 2015 unless they are uneven, or excessively grooved. Did the vehicle exhibit uneven braking or shaking when braking? This is unnecessary work IMHO. If you want to know the condition of your vehicle, start doing maintenance repairs yourself. You'll save some money too.
 

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I voted normal, but that is with the reservation of not having enough info...

Lets say that maybe the guide pins were not greased, so the caliper did not slide or release properly. So a pad dragged and overheated the caliper.

But with 52,000 miles and the same (possible lack of) maintenance on the other side, I would replace both calipers.

I can understand you never having to have replaced the calipers at 52,000 miles in the past, I have not either. I've also never had to replace pads or turn rotors that early either.

So I think it is possible the repairs are needed, but first want to know more about why they are needed. Because I agree, they should not be needed yet. I would want to see the front end and look at the parts myself.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 10:30 AM
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sad they stopped using the push-back clips..

as a mechanic I see the added work/issue. but after a few times.. easy

but as an owner, I like them.. less brake drag... even a little..
 
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