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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 05:11 PM
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1984 351w with a c4 transmission, have to raise the idle rpm to 1000 to keep the engine from stalling,the rpms drop to 700 when put in drive. 20"vacuum ,compression 145 to 155,engine runs good.Have had mechanics say ,you may have to run it this way.torque converter problems?????? Any help would be appreciated!!!
 

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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 05:28 PM
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From what you've described, nothing is wrong...

other than the stalling out part. Let's Go into more detail on that. Something probably just needs to be adjusted.

When does it stall?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 05:55 PM
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The engine stalled when transmission was put in drive.Had to raise the idle to 1000 to keep the engine running when the truck was stopped.never had to run the idle rpms that high on any other ford f100 I have owned,but this is the first f100 with an automatic.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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The engine should idle at about 700 rpm in neutral, and drop to about 500 in drive.

If that's not happening like that, then you have other issues. My first guess would be retarded ignition timing.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2017 | 12:09 AM
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On the timing,mechanics have checked the timing.The timeing cover has not been removed for a visual check,but have rotated the crank while observing the rotor.The slack in the timing chain seems to be little,about 2 degrees of crank rotation and the rotor button begins to turn.Set the timeing at 12 degrees advance at idle vac hose off of the distributor and plugged, no help there.Set the timing with a vacuum gage for max vacuum,hopeing to eliminate harmonic damper slippage if it existed,no help there.adjusted the mixture on the new Holley carb,no help there.Checked top dead center on the number one cylinder,both valves are closed with no pressure on the push rods.no help there.Checked compression 145 psi to 155psi. Have not done a leak down test on the cylinders.the distributor is an accel dist.Checked the vacuum advance mechanism, it's not binding and is connected to the upper port on the Holley.New gasket on the intake manifold.Any help would be appreciated!I
 
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Old Dec 30, 2017 | 09:16 AM
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Ok, so probably not ignition related.

How well does the truck drive? How does it shift? Plenty of power or is it lacking?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2017 | 10:55 AM
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20” of vacuum is a bit high for setting timing with a vacuum gauge. 18”is optimal, 15”-17” is acceptable. What carb are you running?
 
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Old Jan 1, 2018 | 03:48 AM
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Does it have the OEM cam in it?
 
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Rpm drop

carb holley four barrel 650cfm.. Don't know what cam the engine has.
 
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Sounds like it’s time for a rebuild of the carb.
 
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