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Old Dec 18, 2017 | 08:24 AM
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Speedometer gear woes

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I just picked up this lifted 1979 F100 the other day. The speedometer was not working. The driven gear looks OK, but the drive gear teeth seem to be mushed (melted maybe?), so I was going to replace the drive gear. Because it's melted, it's hard to count the number of teeth, but it looks like it's 6. The truck is a four speed manual 4WD. The previous owner thinks it's a 360 or 390, he wasn't sure what the ratio was on the back end either, and I haven't had time to dig in an figure out either.

I looked on MAC's auto website but it shows a drive gear and several white driven gears for the 1979 F100. I'm guessing that they changed those to yellow due to the larger tires. I can find a yellow drive gear that is for Mustangs but that one has teeth on the inside while the grey one on MAC's is smooth.

Anyone have any suggestions on what drive gear I should order? Any hints on how to figure out whether I have a 360, 390 or something else?

Thanks a million,
 
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Originally Posted by wjstarck

I just picked up this lifted 1979* F100 the other day. The speedometer was not working. The driven gear looks OK, but the drive gear teeth seem to be mushed (melted maybe?), so I was going to replace the drive gear. Because it's melted, it's hard to count the number of teeth, but it looks like it's 6. The truck is a four speed manual 4WD.

The previous owner thinks it's a 360 or 390.
No 360/390's after 1976. If it is a 1979, it could be a 302 (6 valve cover bolts), 351M or 400 (8 valve cover bolts).

He wasn't sure what the ratio was on the back end either, and I haven't had time to dig in an figure out either.
To get the correct speedometer DRIVE gear (located on the output shaft), the trans type, axle ratio and tire size are required.

Post the AXLE code stamped on the 2nd line-far right of the Warranty Plate, riveted to the left door face below the latch.

3 possible 4 speeds, need the TRANS code from the Warranty Plate, it's just before the AXLE code.

The nylon DRIVEN gears (16 thru 21 teeth) are the same: 1960 and later Passenger Cars & F100/350's, 1961 and later Econolines, 1966 and later Bronco's.

These gears are available from Ford and auto parts stores.

*Your "1979" has a 1973/77 grille frame and 1976/77 grille inserts.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2017 | 12:38 PM
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Well, so much for that idea 😡

I looked up these particular plates and the ones that are similar on the Internet don’t have axle codes anyways

i’m hoping it’s stamped on the rear differential I can check Friday when I get home from business. I’ll let you know
 
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That doesn’t surprise me about the front grille either. The badges say F100 but according to the VIN it’s a 79 F150 with a 351
 
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Some speedo gear diagrams and #'s from ND a while back. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post16634278
 
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Originally Posted by wjstarck

Geez Louise! This is the Safety Standard Certification Label, not the Warranty Plate!

This label is glued to the B pillar below the striker plate, it does not have the TRANS & AXLE codes printed on it.

Metal Warranty Plate RIVETED to the left door face below the latch, post the TRANS & AXLE codes from it.

If it's been painted, post a pic of it. I can decode ALL the info.

Pic: Your Warranty Plate will be similar to this:

 
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1/2 ton, so the tag might still be held in place by 1 of the 3rd member nuts?

Jack it up and do the ol tire versus the d/s rotation trick. What Gear Ratio is My Rearend?

If you want to get an new Safety Certification sticker Marti auto has them. Marti Auto Works - Replacement Door Tags plus more
 
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