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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 01:02 PM
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Transmission Trouble

Went out and started my truck today and after about a minute, fluid started pouring out of the bottom front of the bell housing. The fluid was very foamy and i was messing with the transfercase floor shifter the day before. 78 4x4 351m.
Front pump, seal, torque converter?
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Seal toast.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2017 | 12:44 PM
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Make sure yer transmission vent is open and not clogged.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 12:35 PM
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This is a new truck to me so im not familiar with the c6. Where is that located?
 
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Melonmuziq
This is a new truck to me so im not familiar with the c6. Where is that located?
Trans case vent: Basic part number 7034 in pic (look for this number just below the torque converter).

The front pump is 7A103 .. front pump seal is 7A248 .. large front pump o-ring is also 7A248 .. the front pump gasket is 7A136

 
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Melonmuziq
Went out and started my truck today and after about a minute, fluid started pouring out of the bottom front of the bell housing. The fluid was very foamy and i was messing with the transfercase floor shifter the day before. 78 4x4 351m.
Front pump, seal, torque converter?
Any ideas?
Have you added fluid recently? I seem to recall that over filling can lead to foaming and burst seals. Not speaking from my own experience. I do feel uncertain reading the level on my tranny dip stick. Read it while hot idling in park, but it always seems like the dipstick is gathering fluid from the tube walls, so I'm never sure.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 03:18 PM
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The last C-6 that I worked on had the wrong dip stick installed in it and owner kept overfilling it by two quarts unknowingly. At speed it would belch out the fluid through the vent. Called the number in from the dipstick to a dealer and got the right one for the application. Also for some time Ford supplied gray silicone rubber front seals that shrank and oil went right by them. I only use the orange silicone rubber seals.from Napa Parts. Another way the trans will spew oil would be from a restricted/clogged cooler or cooler line. To make sure the right dipstick is in the beast, drop the oil pan (Which is a good way to see what if any crud is laying in the pan) and check the screen for restriction and then make sure the full mark on the stick is even with the pan rain on the case itself. Use a straight edge if you can't eyeball it. If it is off, remark the dipstick. I have seen the vents clogged with mud as well. If this truck will be used for water crossings I would advise a hose onto the end of the vent and carry the end up the front side of the firewall. Water in an automatic will destroy it. In closing make sure you have cooler flow of the ATF. Easy check.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 05:09 PM
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Thanks a lot, i appreciate the help.
I have not put any fluid in it and have only driven it a few times since i purchased it. The fluid was on the mark but again, not sure if its the right dipstick. I will check on that.
Whats the best way to clean the vent?
 
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There is no vent, just a plug. Could that be the reason?

I was also noticing today that the bell housing is cracked and there is quite a chunk missing. So Im looking at buying a reman but not sure which way to go. Im leaning towards a TCI or Patriot. Anyone have experience with either of these or is there another good alternative?
 
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Originally Posted by Melonmuziq

I was also noticing today that the converter housing is cracked (there isn't one on a C6).
The converter housing is made as part of the trans case. See pic in post #5.

Bell housings only used with manual trannies.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2018 | 01:49 PM
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Thats what i meant. The auto school I went to just called them all bell housings, converter housing is a new one to me but any who. Any good remans out there that arent overpriced?
 
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