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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 01:17 PM
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OH I WISH...

Hey guys,

Some who see this may know me a little and seen threads or posts about what I've been looking for in a truck after doing the research. Well, I found EXACTLY what I was looking for, and for an Amazing price.

Its a 2001 Ford F-250 7.3L Turbo Diesel 4x4. It has the extended cab with short bed, looks like a bit of a lift, and it even has the manual transfer case for the 4wd. The color wasn't what I originally have hoped, but I like it even better than what I was thinking

Now that I'm done daydreaming, let me say I am probably not going to be able to get this truck, because I want really be able to afford it until after taxes this coming year. But what I wanted to ask is about the engine. Specifically, the aluminum foil looking wrappings on one of the hoses. Its a hose or pipe(about 3-4inches in diameter) directly behind the alternator. I'm wondering if this in normal or if its some crude insulation job.

Here a picture of the truck


And Here it the engine bay with the aluminum wrapping


Finally, you can actually see that wrapping better in this picture, but can anyone tell me if this air intake or filter(still learning engine parts) is aftermarket? and if so, what kind and is it any good?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 01:27 PM
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The wrap on the one side and not the other is normal and came from the factory that way. The pipe(s) goes to the front by the radiator.


The air filter box is after market.


Not sure why there is a bolt and tightening nut in the middle of the fuel bowl cover. That is not correct.


Somebody took a lot of time cleaning and shining things up. Looks nice.... almost too nice...
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 01:35 PM
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The foil wrapping is OEM. It was there to help deaden the sound of the turbo. Some of us remove it only for aesthetic reasons.

I looked for my truck for nearly 9 months before finding what I wanted. A 2000 shortbed Super Cab 4x4 with a ZF6 manual transmission that did not live its life in the north or anywhere near the rust belt. The wait was well worth it.

There is a non-OEM wingnut on the cover, but that is not a big deal as the mounts for the screws to the cover were known to break. Looks pretty clean in there, other than the interesting wire loom choice of yellow just in front of the spider. It has a through the belt radiator hose, but that is not a big deal either. S&B intake is nice to have right off the bat.

It does have a lift, which I don't care for but it may suit your needs and wants. The front bumper is nice too, not original to the truck, neither are the headlights. It is not uncommon for trucks of this age to have things swapped out for newer and better parts, you know that. As long as they modifications were done with care then you are OK looking at a truck like this.

What is the price and mileage of the truck? Any pictures of the inside?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Les
The wrap on the one side and not the other is normal and came from the factory that way. The pipe(s) goes to the front by the radiator.


The air filter box is after market.


Not sure why there is a bolt and tightening nut in the middle of the fuel bowl cover. That is not correct.


Somebody took a lot of time cleaning and shining things up. Looks nice.... almost too nice...
That's good. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't some crappy repair job. Not sure about the fuel bowl cover(I'm thinking you mean the piece that says POWERSTROKE on it). The dealership is like, 150ish mi from me and I haven't just "stopped on by" to look at the truck, because I cant get it now anyway.

However, the truck has been on that lot and their website since may of this year.. Maybe if I'm lucky it will still be sitting around come tax time and I might even be able to talk down the price
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
The foil wrapping is OEM. It was there to help deaden the sound of the turbo. Some of us remove it only for aesthetic reasons.

I looked for my truck for nearly 9 months before finding what I wanted. A 2000 shortbed Super Cab 4x4 with a ZF6 manual transmission that did not live its life in the north or anywhere near the rust belt. The wait was well worth it.

There is a non-OEM wingnut on the cover, but that is not a big deal as the mounts for the screws to the cover were known to break. Looks pretty clean in there, other than the interesting wire loom choice of yellow just in front of the spider. It has a through the belt radiator hose, but that is not a big deal either. S&B intake is nice to have right off the bat.

It does have a lift, which I don't care for but it may suit your needs and wants. The front bumper is nice too, not original to the truck, neither are the headlights. It is not uncommon for trucks of this age to have things swapped out for newer and better parts, you know that. As long as they modifications were done with care then you are OK looking at a truck like this.

What is the price and mileage of the truck? Any pictures of the inside?
I hear you. I was blown away with how quickly I found this truck.197k miles for $12K. Let me go pull some pic of the interior and I will post them.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
Any pictures of the inside?
Did I meantion the bed hitch?




Oh, and it has gauges.



Can someone tell me what this screen next to the 4wd transfer is?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 02:05 PM
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The bed/ball hitch tells me that a cattle or horse rancher used it with a goose neck trailer. (work truck)


The gauges and lift tells me that the second or third owner was looking to soup it up and add some flash. The farmer smashed the front bumper and future owner put newer front additions. It has had a new paint job. (play truck)


The big question is if the motor is sound and how was it treated. I would think not too well. Can you get a history of repairs and changes. Yes, repairs and changes... there have been a few. Is that some damage under the air vent by the steering wheel? kind of strange?


12,000 is too much for the truck, but the sDealer will get that in time. The best time to shoot him an offer is at the end of the month, when the push to clear the lots. I do not think it will be around after tax time, but... car and truck sales are going down. If I offered 8,000, (an got it), I would still wonder what is going to rust or bust....
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 02:24 PM
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Well the truck is originally from TX so it could have been used for cattle or horses. Something it will be used for again if I got it.

That's quite the assumption that the new owner put the gauges in there because he wanted to "soup it up". regardless of what truck I get, the first thing I'm doing to it is putting the gauges in so I can monitor what's going on in my engine.

The Carfax has several maintenance inspection and oil changes. The 3 owners. All in Texas, seems like it ended up in GA after a vehicle auction. The only thing is that it was reported a total loss.

In January, 2009 it was reported stolen, and the same day reported a total loss by the insurance company. It says:

January 20th, 2009: "Vehicle reported stolen
Vehicle recovered after theft"

January 20th, 2009: "Vehicle declared a total loss
by an insurance company
Non-collision damage reported
Owner retained vehicle"

So that was a thing.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 02:37 PM
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Welllll... I would have made up a better story if I knew that it was stolen and rolled/crashed. So.... it was not the farmer who smashed it up. Totaled???? ouch.
so the owner retained it and got the insurance money at that time. Was that when it was repaired and repainted or was that done at a later date? Looks to be a later date and not a 8/9year old paint job. Insurance companies have a strange way of looking at totaled out vehicles and may not want them on their 'books'.... The truck looks very good right now, but has a mirky past. This knowledge of the truck being totaled when/if you talk to the sDealer about buying. But this knowledge is also a big red flag. Half the front end smashed is easily 'totaled', but what other damage?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 02:57 PM
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Welllll... I would have made up a better story if I knew that it was stolen and rolled/crashed. So.... it was not the farmer who smashed it up. Totaled???? ouch.
so the owner retained it and got the insurance money at that time. Was that when it was repaired and repainted or was that done at a later date? Looks to be a later date and not a 8/9year old paint job. Insurance companies have a strange way of looking at totaled out vehicles and may not want them on their 'books'.... The truck looks very good right now, but has a mirky past. This knowledge of the truck being totaled when/if you talk to the sDealer about buying. But this knowledge is also a big red flag. Half the front end smashed is easily 'totaled', but what other damage?
Not sure about other damage. But the Carfax said "non-collison damage reported"

Here the link to the Carfax. I'm not sure how or where to look for any other information on its past

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...NX21F71EB43211
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 03:21 PM
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When the insurance company declared it a 'totaled' truck, it became a junk/parts truck and the value AND title would be declared as that... totaled. Paid out to owner and in 'the junk yard'. the owner bought the truck back from the insurance company...at a junk price....


It looks as if the truck was still in that 'state' of 'totaled' just under a year and then it was REtitled again. It was fixed back up with new parts and paint.


'Non-collision' damage....? This happened on the day that it was stolen... even a messed up engine may not have 'totaled' it. (my wife works for an insurance company and has done everything from A-Z. Agent/adjuster, etc.


Front clip, we know was changed... imo, it was rolled and did not hit anything else and not able to drive away on its' own... that would 'total' it.


It has been 8-9 years. I think a good truck to take a chance on... but not for 12,000.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 03:26 PM
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When the insurance company declared it a 'totaled' truck, it became a junk/parts truck and the value AND title would be declared as that... totaled. Paid out to owner and in 'the junk yard'. the owner bought the truck back from the insurance company...at a junk price....


It looks as if the truck was still in that 'state' of 'totaled' just under a year and then it was REtitled again. It was fixed back up with new parts and paint.


'Non-collision' damage....? This happened on the day that it was stolen... even a messed up engine may not have 'totaled' it. (my wife works for an insurance company and has done everything from A-Z. Agent/adjuster, etc.


Front clip, we know was changed... imo, it was rolled and did not hit anything else and not able to drive away on its' own... that would 'total' it.


It has been 8-9 years. I think a good truck to take a chance on... but not for 12,000.
Hmm... That's a lot to think about... And I thought I would be able to talk down the price just from it sitting on their lot for six months... What would be the highest you would pay for it?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 03:26 PM
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On the picture looking in the drivers door. What it that button, under and to the right of the light switch, in the middle of the white, by itself.


It has a brake controller still in it, so it may still be used for pulling.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 03:27 PM
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Oh and I can finally start using signatures, classifieds and my private messages. Now all I need is a truck.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 03:33 PM
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Hmm... That's a lot to think about... And I thought I would be able to talk down the price just from it sitting on their lot for six months... What would be the highest you would pay for it?

I would not be able to give you a price on what I would pay.... or the value that would be good for the truck. 'Totaled' kills the conversation with a lot of sDealers and bankers. You should research this better and know for sure what happened to the truck and if all is good. And then shoot lower on a price...


I would pass it by for other reasons than what we have talked about here. It could be a great truck for the right person, but 12,000 is too high.


I have a 4-door crew cab and my adult kids would never ride in those jump seats. It would be 'ok' if I did not like my kids and they could stay home when me and the wife goes on vacation (we have a 35 foot camper). But.... I like my kids and I like being around them.... 'they' would not let me buy a truck ..... so small....
 
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