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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 01:09 PM
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Green guy here. Two questions

I'm pretty new at this, I'm not familiar with diesels at all, but hoping to lean on y'all some. Here goes.
I bought a four door 87 350, non dually for cheap. He said the truck has a 6.9, but I'm not sure, like I said I got it cheap. How do I tell? All I know is it does not have a turbo.
I don't have any friends close by that are diesel-inclined, so do any of you guys know of any step
by step resources on how to do a motor rebuild? What to look for, what to do and why, etc? WITH pictures? I would like to learn how to do it on my own. I read posts here often, and am very appreciative of how helpful y'all are.
Dont know if this helps, here's a horrible pic of the motor, maybe it can be identified.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 03:21 PM
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From what I remember, I thought they stopped installing the 6.9's in 84, but I could be wrong. From 1985 onward, I thought it was all 7.3 IDI's.

As for the basics, check out the stickies in this forum. that should get you up to speed.

WHy do you think you need to "rebuild" the engine? What is wrong with it?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 07:04 PM
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that is probably a 6.9.
6.9 were 1983 to 1987
7.3 were 1988 to 1994

Look at the fuel filter, 6.9 has a solid plain filter with a water separator on the firewall. 7.3 has a two piece filter with a screw off bottom
 
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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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I will I'll check out the stickies, thank you. As far as why to consider a rebuild, I've read that grey-ish smoke out of the exhaust might be an indicator of fried piston rings. My brother followed me on the interstate while I was driving the truck, at first black smoke was pretty noticeable when starting from a stop, and then as we progressed along the interstate for about an hour to two hours, the color went to grey he said. As far as volume of the smoke, he didnt say. He did say it became less and less. At idle there is no smoke coming from the exhaust.



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From what I remember, I thought they stopped installing the 6.9's in 84, but I could be wrong. From 1985 onward, I thought it was all 7.3 IDI's.

As for the basics, check out the stickies in this forum. that should get you up to speed.

WHy do you think you need to "rebuild" the engine? What is wrong with it?
 

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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BD154
that is probably a 6.9.
6.9 were 1983 to 1987
7.3 were 1988 to 1994

Look at the fuel filter, 6.9 has a solid plain filter with a water separator on the firewall. 7.3 has a two piece filter with a screw off bottom

thank you for your help, I'm going to try and ID the motor tomorrow
 
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Old Oct 19, 2017 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Aservant
I will I'll check out the stickies, thank you. As far as why to consider a rebuild, I've read that grey-ish smoke out of the exhaust might be an indicator of fried piston rings. My brother followed me on the interstate while I was driving the truck, at first black smoke was pretty noticeable when starting from a stop, and then as we progressed along the interstate for about an hour to two hours, the color went to grey he said. As far as volume of the smoke, he didnt say. He did say it became less and less. At idle there is no smoke coming from the exhaust.
Is he sure it was grey and not just white? White is fine (could mean a bunch of stuff, but probably not engine rebuild necessary). If it was blue, then you could be having problems.

White and black smoke could just be a timing issue. Or fuel screw or IP related. How old are the injectors? etc
 
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Old Oct 20, 2017 | 03:17 PM
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smell the exhaust .if it is burning oil or antifreeze, you will know it. oil smells like oil, antifreeze smells sweet. if the exhaust burns your eyes, it is most likely unburnt fuel due to weak or bad injectors.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2017 | 11:25 PM
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Chances are, it's timing. On an IDI, timing and injectors account for 99% of gray/white/blue smoke issues.

IDIs have enough compression that they'll burn engine oil cleanly. You can be burning a quart every 50 miles with no visible smoke.

And, if the engine is able to start, the rings are intact. It takes a lot of compression to actually fire off diesel when it's cold.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 04:01 AM
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yup, at 21 to 1 compression ratio, if it starts cold it is usually good
 
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 09:50 PM
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yup, at 21 to 1 compression ratio, if it starts cold it is usually good
Thanks guys.
 
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