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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 07:39 AM
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camper certificate 2878 LBS 2018 F250XLT SCLB 6-2 4-3



3783lbs drivers door sticker

a few people had asked about the certificate that comes with the camper package, Mine was in the glove box so here is what it looks like along with the cargo sticker from the drivers door
 

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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 09:05 AM
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Good thread, I just bought a F250 Lariat with the camper package, but do not have any paperwork to confirm, other than the window sicker. Is the camper package tied to the VIN or did my dealer neglect to give me the cert.?
Sorry for the late post. We ordered our F350 with the camper package (two-up front springs plus rear axle ASB). The aux rear spring leaves (five total) were standard on our truck configuration. Our truck was delivered with the camper certification document, but I promptly lost -- er, misplaced -- it.

I called Ford, gave 'em my VIN, and they emailed a pdf of the cert to me. Kudos to Ford for excellent customer service!

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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 09:08 AM
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Interesting that the cargo capacity is 905 lbs less than the payload, even though the number of passengers is only 5.
5 X 150 = 750, this should be the reduction from payload to cargo capacity.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 09:08 AM
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Our truck is also a five-seater (40/console/40 front). The difference between our TaLI sticker (3968 lbs.) and the camper cert (3111 lbs.) is 857 lbs.

Our truck's GVWR is 10,600 lbs., and the local CAT scale curb weight with the camper hardware (bed mat, tie-downs, turnbuckles) installed is 6700 lbs., leaving 3900 lbs for the camper, people, and cargo. I therefore suspect our truck's TaLI sticker is low and should be closer to ~4050 lbs.

This adjustment would make the difference between the cert and the actual load capacity ~900 lbs. I wonder if Ford's cargo algorithm doesn't account for the five-seat 40/console/40 option?

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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 12:45 PM
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I looking around at 2018 F250 4x4 Supercab w/6.5' bed and I can't find one on the dealer lots with the camper option, only with the snow plow prep package. I really don't want the overly stiff front springs and stock rear suspension that the snow plow package offers since this will be my daily driver.

My plan is to get a popup (Four Wheel Camper brand) 6.5' Hawk shell model camper, with an approx. weight of 900 lbs. This is a very basic shell camper w/o water or frig. I also want to haul my motorcycle on a receiver mounted carrier (weight of bike & carrier 450 lbs). Four Wheel Camper says the Hawk model will work fine for 1/2 ton trucks.

Do you think I'll be fine without the camper package on a stock F250?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 12:50 PM
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How about ordering a new F250 in exactly the configuration that you want? Our special order delivery last year was ~eight weeks.

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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 01:10 PM
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How about ordering a new F250 in exactly the configuration that you want? Our special order delivery last year was ~eight weeks.

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For the setup I described, I'm not really sure I would need the camper package? My dealer has a truck I like, but without the camper package.

But, if the knowledge of this forum says it's a must have option, then I'll order a truck with it.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 07:37 AM
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I looking around at 2018 F250 4x4 Supercab w/6.5' bed and I can't find one on the dealer lots with the camper option, only with the snow plow prep package. I really don't want the overly stiff front springs and stock rear suspension that the snow plow package offers since this will be my daily driver.

My plan is to get a popup (Four Wheel Camper brand) 6.5' Hawk shell model camper, with an approx. weight of 900 lbs. This is a very basic shell camper w/o water or frig. I also want to haul my motorcycle on a receiver mounted carrier (weight of bike & carrier 450 lbs). Four Wheel Camper says the Hawk model will work fine for 1/2 ton trucks.

Do you think I'll be fine without the camper package on a stock F250?
The stripped FWC Hawk shell appears to be ~900 lbs. When you add jacks,water, other options, water, mounting hardware (bed mat, tie-downs, turnbuckles), supplies, tools, and other stuff, you'll likely be at 1300 lbs. or more.

Then there's the bike, the carrier, you, and ?? I see the total load quickly approaching 2000 lbs. To save a bit of weight, you might want to remove the tailgate.

The SuperCab short bed's wheel base is 148", and the truck's rear overhang (rear axle to end of hitch receiver) is 52". I estimate that carrying the 450 lbs. bike and carrier (center of mass ~18" out from receiver) on on the hitch will add ~675 lbs. to the rear axle load and correspondingly unload the front axle by ~225 lbs.

I'd hold out for the camper option. If nothing else, the upgrade from three-leaf rear spring packs to four-leaf included in the F250's camper package would be worthwhile, especially with the camper in the bed and the bike and carrier hanging out past the rear bumper.

Frankly, I'd also consider an F350 4x4 for your particular intended application. With the 6.2, the official GVWR increases from 10,000 lbs. to 11,300 lbs. (w/ 18" AT tires), including a nice official payload bump of ~700 lbs. The rear spring packs are usually five-leaf (18" and larger wheels, with or without the camper option), and if you find an otherwise suitable model without the camper package, then you can easily add either a Ford- or a Hellwig rear anti-sway bar.

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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 11:16 AM
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Jim,
Thank you for your input. I'll continue searching/order a F250 with the camper package as after sale upgrades will cost more then the camper package option.

Thanks,
Tom
 
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