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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 02:11 PM
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Won't idle when warm.

I've got a 73 F250 with a motorcraft 2100 on top of a 390. Runs great when cold but won't idle when warm. As long as you are on the throttle it stays running but wants to die once stopped. So far I have replaced plugs and wires, fuel filter, fuel pump, timing is set at 12* (I've advanced it trying to find a sweet spot but that didn't work either), pulled all vacuum lines one at a time found nothing. With a vacuum gauge hooked up it it jumps between 12 and 14 in/hg at idle and stays steady at 22 with acceleration. I've tried propane to find a leak as well as wd40. I'm not sure where to go from here. Did I miss something simple?
 
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 03:35 PM
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Id take a look inside the carb.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 04:44 PM
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Choke sticking, EGR plate leaking internally.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 05:46 PM
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The choke is working, when the plate opens that is when the stumbling of the idle starts. I haven't thought of an internal leak. I bought the truck about 2 months ago, the carb has a remanufactured tag on it from about 8 months ago. I haven't gotten into it too much other than maling putside adjustments. Mixture screws are out 3.5 turns, started at 2 turns out but would not idle.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 06:15 PM
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Your vacuum readings at idle suggest you're between 4000 - 6000 feet in elevation...
"Normal" engine vacuum readings should be 17 - 21 inches Hg at idle, at sea level......presupposing the engine is in fairly good shape.

If you're sure your carb is not the culprit and vacuum leaks cannot be found - as in brake booster, booster check valve, brittle/cracked vacuum lines and even the vacuum advance can (the diaphragm can go south and cause a vacuum leak) - I might consider incorrect valve timing (timing chain has too much play), ignition timing is too retarded, vacuum leaks (again), poor compression.....not to mention yer plug gaps being correct and points (if you have 'em) not being timed right - dwell....

Whatever is easier to check for you....mebbe the carb first as mentioned above, then a compression or leak-down test.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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I haven't gotten into it too much other than maling putside adjustments. Mixture screws are out 3.5 turns, started at 2 turns out but would not idle.
That's a lot of turns out for a "re-manned" carb. Have you checked for vacuum leaks at the throttle plates? Also, how many turns out is yer curb idle screw? The reason I ask is if the transition slot is open too much, you're into the main circuit and not the idle....which will cause idle speed/mixture problems as well as vacuum leaks.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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Check fast idle cam setting when warm. It should point to the stamped "V".

Check float level.

Choke piston sticking.

Missing gasket between the choke housing and the carb. It's supposed to seal a vacuum passage.

Yer vacuum is low.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 07:52 PM
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Your PVS may not being opening or closing when it should. You won't find that vacuum "leak" with propane.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 09:47 PM
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I'm going to look tomorrow and take some pictures of the way my vac line are being routed. I have a feeling something may be wrong.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2017 | 12:42 PM
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Vac advance hooks up to carb.
Transmission vac, brake booster, then capped ports x3.

 
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Old Sep 29, 2017 | 03:29 PM
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That hose to the brake booster doesn't look like it's on there very well, at the vacuum distribution 'block...'
 
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Old Sep 29, 2017 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by meangreen92
That hose to the brake booster doesn't look like it's on there very well, at the vacuum distribution 'block...'
I had taken it off to plug the port to isolate the booster. I've got a new line and clamp for it. The fitting on the tree for that line is actually about 2 inches long!
 
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Put a rubber nipple on that so you aren't sucking dirt into your new carb.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2017 | 04:16 PM
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Nipple that too if you arent using it.
 
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