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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 11:58 AM
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Snow Plow w/o Prep Package?

A year ago I bought a '17 F-250 diesel CCSB in SoCal. Getting the snow-plow prep package seemed silly. But we've now moved to the rural Midwest and with winter coming, getting a snow plow for the truck seems a whole lot less silly. My question: is a snow plow still a possibility, or am I better off looking to solve that problem with a compact tractor?

The truck is 4wd with the e-locker and 3.55 gears. It's also got the extra HD alternator. What I don't think it has are the stiffer springs. However, it does have a 4" lift with coil-overs and radius arms, so I'm wondering if the coil-overs would help compensate for the lack of stiffer springs.

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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 02:45 PM
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Your best bet is talk to your local plow dealer and see what they think, having that size lift your probably going to modify the mount to give you enough drop for the plow. I'm running a Western MVP 3 stock height with a plow package and I only have 1 hole lower for adjustment and that would not get you any where near 4" As far as springs I'd hang the plow and see how much it drops, you can always upgrade the springs after the fact.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 02:47 PM
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Everybody needs a tractor even if it is a small one. They come in VERY handy for a lot of things summer and winter! I've got a Kubota B2650 and I love it probably more than my truck if that's possible. I vote tractor instead of plow.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 03:27 PM
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You could easily add snow plow springs and be fine. That being said I would get a tractor if you can afford one. I have a Kubota 3940 gst 4x4 with R1 tires and a loader with a rear blade, it works great for plowing deep, heavy snow. If you have acreage you will need a tractor anyway, you can use the loader for LOTS of things.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 03:38 PM
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Your coil overs will more than likely not be able to handle the weight of a plow. Get a tractor.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rwilimo
Your best bet is talk to your local plow dealer and see what they think, having that size lift your probably going to modify the mount to give you enough drop for the plow. I'm running a Western MVP 3 stock height with a plow package and I only have 1 hole lower for adjustment and that would not get you any where near 4" As far as springs I'd hang the plow and see how much it drops, you can always upgrade the springs after the fact.
That's a really good point, didn't even think about the lift affecting the plow height.

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Everybody needs a tractor even if it is a small one. They come in VERY handy for a lot of things summer and winter! I've got a Kubota B2650 and I love it probably more than my truck if that's possible. I vote tractor instead of plow.
Originally Posted by LOWRPMTORQUE
You could easily add snow plow springs and be fine. That being said I would get a tractor if you can afford one. I have a Kubota 3940 gst 4x4 with R1 tires and a loader with a rear blade, it works great for plowing deep, heavy snow. If you have acreage you will need a tractor anyway, you can use the loader for LOTS of things.
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Your coil overs will more than likely not be able to handle the weight of a plow. Get a tractor.
This is also really helpful to hear. I've spent a ton of time recently looking at Kubotas, with the B2650 being at the top of the list (since I can put a belly mower on it). I like the idea of getting something a little larger (like the L) that can lift more with the front bucket, but then I probably have to get a separate mower. My wife is extremely patient, but I'm not sure she'd like to hear that I need to buy a ZT mower AND a small tractor (oh, AND a trailer to haul it all).

Thanks again for the feedback!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 04:20 PM
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How many acres do you have? What is the terrain like? What will you be using it for?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 04:40 PM
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How many acres do you have? What is the terrain like? What will you be using it for?
12 acres. About 7 of it is hay and the rest is split between yard and pasture. The terrain is flat. If possible, I'd like to cut, rake, and bail the hay myself. The tractor would also be for snow removal, mowing, barn cleanup, moving dead trees (there's a tree line and creek that runs along one edge of the property), garden work, etc. Growing up we did most everything on the family farm with a Farmall B and an Allis Chalmers (WD45, I think?). Any advice is appreciated.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 04:58 PM
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12 acres. About 7 of it is hay and the rest is split between yard and pasture. The terrain is flat. If possible, I'd like to cut, rake, and bail the hay myself. The tractor would also be for snow removal, mowing, barn cleanup, moving dead trees (there's a tree line and creek that runs along one edge of the property), garden work, etc. Growing up we did most everything on the family farm with a Farmall B and an Allis Chalmers (WD45, I think?). Any advice is appreciated.
I love helping others spend their money, sounds to me like you could use a larger tractor and an L would probably suit you very well with that much property to maintain. I would recommend no matter what you get try to get one before they started requiring diesel particulate filters on these tractors, or stay under what is it, 30 horsepower (?) if you can.

I really love my B2650 because it will handle a little larger implement than the regular B or BX's well because of the larger frame. It was the largest one I could get at the time without a DPF. A neighbor bought a super nice B3350 with cab (read AC and heat) which is the same frame as mine but more HP, and yes he has had a lot of problems with the DPF system. So much so that he wishes he would have bought a 2650 cab. He says he would be happier with a few less HP if it would be reliable, I would have to agree with him. I wish I would have bought the B2650 cab but it wasn't in my budget at the time.

I have used my tractor in ways I never dreamed I would when I was buying it. They are very useful. Good luck with whatever you end up deciding.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 06:32 PM
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With tractors it is better to have a little more than you need than not enough. Based on past experience, owning many, I would go with at least 40hp for what you have described. Figure out how many hp your bailer will need and go from there.
 
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