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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 02:58 PM
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Time for reflash

Looks like ram just trumped fords tow and torque numbers. Just in time for the 18 SD. Who thinks ford will up the game
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 03:30 PM
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If Ford didn't do a thing it wouldn't matter, the Super Duty is a much better truck overall than the Ram. But I honestly don't think Ford will take this sitting down.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 03:33 PM
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Still only 385hp...who cares about 5lbs of torque.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 04:45 PM
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Not unlike the Mustang v Camaro debates.....Camaro might be technically "faster" but sales numbers are the "tale of the tape"......
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 07:20 PM
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The thing is at this much power and towing it's all a numbers game now. I bet that the bottom 1%ers even own anything that heavy
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 07:58 PM
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its only 5ftlb now , barely even worth mentioning , if you ask me. but in 2yrs theyre likely to have new frame, axles, possibly transmission etc etc. this seems to suggest they might be getting ready to turn up the heat a few notches
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 08:41 PM
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1000 ft.lbs. here we come. We should take bets as to which one gets there first.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 09:05 PM
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It's funny how the ram guys all talk smack. Now they talk about how long there warranty is vs a Ford. I just tell them fords don't need warranty
 
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tony m 6.7
If Ford didn't do a thing it wouldn't matter, the Super Duty is a much better truck overall than the Ram.
Agreed.

I tried out a 2017 Ram 3500. Can you say "turbo lag" when taking off. And that puppy rode rough. The flip up outside mirrors just did not seem have the visibility as the extended SD mirrors. And the engine brake button was in a cluster of buttons, which made it hard to find. IMHO, I made a good choice when going with a Ford truck again......number 4 new truck since 1979.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 08:34 AM
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Ram used to offer 100,000 mile warranties on all their trucks. But for 2016, they conformed to Ford and GM's warranty length. Only diesel power trains get 100,000 mile warranties now. Including EcoDiesel.

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It's funny how the ram guys all talk smack. Now they talk about how long there warranty is vs a Ford. I just tell them fords don't need warranty
 
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 09:22 AM
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Torque is great, but the inline 6 can't make horsepower. I hate losing stoplight drag races.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 09:22 AM
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Why does it say on the sticker on diesel trucks it's only 60k mile warramty ?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 12:22 PM
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Torque is great, but the inline 6 can't make horsepower. I hate losing stoplight drag races.
You're right, torque is great, however, torque management nullifies it on the Ram.
 
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Did RAM fix their dead pedal? /sarcasm /eyeroll
 
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 01:54 PM
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The Ram is torque limited to 3rd gear. The Ford is limited to 2nd on DRW, 4th on SRW. That's too much! Chevy is only limited in 1st. The Ram is sluggish off the line mainly because of the emissions compliance. The 2013 upgrade really killed it. The 2012 model did fine getting off the line.
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You're right, torque is great, however, torque management nullifies it on the Ram.
 
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