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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 04:22 PM
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I just changed the shocks on my 1994 E-150 conversion van with a wheelchair lift. The existing shocks were not originals and I don't know when they were installed. I bought the van with 116K and it handled speed bumps pretty well, bounce 1 time in reaction to the bump. I installed a full set of Gabriel ProGuard that is rated as an OEM replacement. The ride improved in that I could "feel" more of the road through the steering wheel. I suppose the smallest wheel movement was feeling some resistance from the shocks. It probably wasn't enough difference to justify the cost but I had no history on the van and wanted to have a "starting point".
Factoid of the day: The springs on a vehicle don't hold the body up, the springs push the tires down.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EagleFreek
A shock doesn't handle any weight loads, it just dampens the movement.
A 8,000lb van should require different dampening than a 5,500lb van.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyclay
Factoid of the day: The springs on a vehicle don't hold the body up, the springs push the tires down.
Same thing. Literally the same.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 07:04 PM
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Shocks should be rated according to the capability designed into the vehicle. The factory did this, but the aftermarket wants to save money too. If the part fits physically, they probably don't care to make a part with valving unique to the load the vehicle is rated for.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 09:13 PM
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My bilsteins will be here any day. Those and the Hellwig ( front and rear) sway bars should make a difference.
Both are going on and I'm almost at 200k.
I'm pulling the stock shocks and sway bar off.
I just wish I could drop it 2" to make it handle even better.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Im50fast
Same thing. Literally the same.
When you consider the components of unsprung mass and sprung mass, the difference is quite clear. In general, it’s best to have a high ratio of sprung-to-unsprung weight. A higher proportion of sprung weight can then push down on the wheels and tires with more force, keeping them in contact with the pavement or whatever surface they are traveling across.
courtesy of Machine Design.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Im50fast
A 8,000lb van should require different dampening than a 5,500lb van.
i agree, I didn't make myself clear when I was saying why aftermarket companies may use the same shock for different models when the manufacturer has spec'd different shocks. What happens is the shock can overheat and lose it's dampening ability if designed for a smaller capacity vehicle or be a much stiffer ride if designed for a larger capacity vehicle
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyclay
The springs on a vehicle don't hold the body up, the springs push the tires down.
Originally Posted by Im50fast
Same thing. Literally the same.





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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyclay
When you consider the components of unsprung mass and sprung mass, the difference is quite clear. In general, it’s best to have a high ratio of sprung-to-unsprung weight. A higher proportion of sprung weight can then push down on the wheels and tires with more force, keeping them in contact with the pavement or whatever surface they are traveling across.
courtesy of Machine Design.
the top of the spring holds up the body/car, and the bottom of the spring holds down the tires (and control arm and other unsprung weight)



 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 08:34 PM
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and air keeps the rim off the earth
but air is unsprung weight
 
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by vettex2
and air keeps the rim off the earth
but air is unsprung weight
"air is unsprung weight"

oh man that's funny! lol literally!!

thread hijacked
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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 10:00 AM
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When they start to smell funny.

Wait - you said shocks not socks. Never mind.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2017 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by vettex2
and air keeps the rim off the earth
but air is unsprung weight
Originally Posted by Im50fast
"air is unsprung weight"

oh man that's funny! lol literally!!

thread hijacked
im out.
Technically it is
and
air pressure changes spring rate
 
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Old Aug 14, 2017 | 10:28 PM
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98econo....so for my camper van, not sure of its weight, but what shocks would you suggest? heavy duty? bilsteins? i was looking on the R/A site for parts list, and may was there quite a few options, quite over whelming.

On good speed bumps the front and rear get an easy 2-2.5 bounce.
I also saw where the top bolts of the shocks are located...oh man!!1
fab
 
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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 12:33 AM
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plasma cutter comes to mind
 
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