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Old Aug 1, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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The miserable door lock set screw.

To keep my drill index prestine, I have drawer of well used bits that can be sacrificed without concern.

That said, I burned up a few right away. Against my better judgement, bought a carbide bit which snapped almost immediately as I expected. ( Really should only use them in a drill-press) Used up 2 new colbalt bits. The set screw must be near 60 C. Ruined my high quality easy-outs...... Got er done but now it's time to sacrifice a few of my old taps........

 
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Old Aug 1, 2017 | 12:14 PM
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Wow!!..... how bout that I just fought with mine for an hour and a half!!..... plenty of curse words were used!
 
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Old Aug 1, 2017 | 01:44 PM
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Count yourself lucky, I gave up on mine and had the "pros" do it. Their bit jammed in the tube and spun the whole tube right off.

I went back with a fillister head screw, there's plenty of room for the head.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2017 | 06:09 PM
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When I was disassembling my 50, I could not brake the set screw loose. I took my map gas torch and held it to the hole to heat the screw for a little bit and I was able to turn it right out.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2017 | 07:05 PM
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I looked up the word "profane" in the dictionary, and there was a picture like that next to it.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2017 | 07:36 PM
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I am presently working on a 40 Ford coupe and it has the same dock lock retainer lash up as the truck. In my case the PO had repaired the door panel around the lock and had removed the collar and set screw tube. I found a replacement for the drivers door at Dennis Carpenter. He makes a kit to add a lock to the driver's door and part of the kit is a new sleeve/collar assembly. I used this kit for the driver's door and welded up the hole on the passenger side.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 11:01 AM
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I looked up the word "profane" in the dictionary, and there was a picture like that next to it.
Scott! Where you been Buddy ?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 01:41 PM
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I wonder if the Ford design engineer that drew that one up, had a grin on his face while he was working.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 11:43 PM
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May I ask what this set screw does and why one would need to loosen it? I didn't even know this was a problem...now I'm scared. heh
 
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Try driving a slightly oversize Bristol or another sharp edge wrench into the Allen screw head. The Bristol will not slip.

Click: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives
 
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Originally Posted by mOROTBREATH
May I ask what this set screw does and why one would need to loosen it? I didn't even know this was a problem...now I'm scared. heh
Modern cars/trucks use a "U"-shaped spring clip to hold the door lock cylinder in place. Early Fords, including my 1940, had a sleeve on the inside skin of the door into which the door lock cylinder slid. This sleeve has a set screw (which is accessed through a hole in the door jamb) that is turned to hold the door lock cylinder in place or to remove the cylinder. Rather arcane setup but I am sure that it seemed like a good idea at the time. Since the door lock cylinder is an item that is seldom removed/replaced, this setscrew corrodes, freezes, whatever you want to call it and becomes a PITA to anyone who wants to remove it.
 
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Originally Posted by mOROTBREATH
May I ask what this set screw does and why one would need to loosen it? I didn't even know this was a problem...now I'm scared. heh
The set screw holds the key lock in the door and must be removed if you want to remove it. In many cases such as mine, somebody had previously tried to remove it and buggered up the hex rendering it useless.
 
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Are 56's like this too? Thanks for the explanation guys.
 
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NO...the F100s (53-56) have a spring plate that slides in through a slot behind the weatherstripping adjacent to the door lock.
 
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Scott! Where you been Buddy ?
Been busy with work, and triple hernia surgery. Tomorrow I'm finally off restrictions.
 
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