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Old Oct 8, 2017 | 03:52 PM
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I've been watching and waiting for you to get it together and then have difficult issues like rears locking up or not working much at all, or vice-versa with the fronts.
Or maybe a crash or near miss during the initial test drive.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2017 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Im50fast
I've been watching and waiting for you to get it together and then have difficult issues like rears locking up or not working much at all, or vice-versa with the fronts.
Or maybe a crash or near miss during the initial test drive.
How nice of you to have such faith in me.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2017 | 05:02 PM
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I just wanna see if everything works well. Mine is an E350 but you never know what tidbits you can learn watching others.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2017 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 98Econoline150
How nice of you to have such faith in me.
i have plenty of faith in your work. I've seen your pictures and I think anyone who cleans and paints old brakes parts is probably very capable in assembling them. I just think the brake systems are a little more complicated than you do.
Master cylinder internals, proportioning valve, ABS unit ... maybe more.
I hope all goes well for you, and obviously I'm joking about damage to your truck/people.
I just think the brake systems are a little more complicated than you do.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2017 | 01:29 PM
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No, not really. I know that a group of trained engineers designed the system I intend to install. They obviously thought an improvement was in order over the original 1piston and drum brakes.

It's not just "painting old parts" The only parts that are from the donor truck are the spindles, shields and caliper brackets. Everything else is new.

I am fully aware of the differences in a disc/drum vs disc/disc system. If you note in a previous post, I have a master cylinder from a newer truck with 4 wheel disc.

Essentially a brake system is not complex. However it needs parts that are engineered to work together, which is what I am doing.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2017 | 02:28 PM
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A fresh set of SuperDuty pads and then the calipers can go on.



Caliper mocked up on passenger side. The rotor and caliper will be removed for spindle installation.



Donor calipers were too nasty to use, so they are now cores for MotorCraft calipers.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 03:08 PM
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So the truck has been on 4 wheel disc brakes for about 2,000 miles and I can say the stopping power is much better. I will be updating this thread on Saturday or Sunday. I will take some pictures of the completed installation.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 10:07 PM
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Wow - super detailed thread with good info.Nice work! Glad that the end result is working well.
I'm late to looking at this... am I summarizing correctly that you installed a complete/newer system with rotors, calipers, master cylinder, proportioning valve and ABS components on the older van?
 
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 05:50 AM
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I was able to reuse the original master cylinder, HCU, lines and front hoses. The front brakes and rear brakes are now 2004-06 E150. It does require the use of 16” wheels to clear the bigger brakes.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 98Econoline150
I was able to reuse the original master cylinder, HCU, lines and front hoses. The front brakes and rear brakes are now 2004-06 E150. It does require the use of 16” wheels to clear the bigger brakes.
Impressive job.
I thought that post #30 showed the master cylinder from the '04 donor? Thanks.

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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 08:18 AM
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Yes, but it turns out it was not required.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 08:43 AM
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interesting... I guess that the difference in required pressures, etc is handled by the proportioning valve then?
Thanks again.
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 09:02 AM
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The HCU has the proportioning valve built into it IIRC. I only had to undo the residual pressure valve in the outlet for the rear brakes at the master cylinder.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2018 | 04:21 PM
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Wow …. much more work than I would ever tackle on my old van. Congrats on a successful modification and the meticulous manner in which you operate, it is very impressive. I just have an '03 E150 conversion van, but one thing I've really noticed when driving it (only had it 6 months), is how good the factory brakes are …. so I would have never thought to 'upgrade' to a different setup. Really glad all your hard work and time involved paid off in a good way. Too many times you hear of all this time, effort, money put into an idea and it turns out to be a waste, so it was great to see yours was successful !!!
 
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Old Sep 3, 2018 | 08:56 PM
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Here are the 16 inch Ford wheels. If you choose to do this upgrade you can pick aluminum or steel wheels.



 
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