262 I 6 Distributor Question/Help
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Long story !
The block that came out had a cylinder that was beyond repair and the machine shop had a "fresh machines I6 block" so we went with it !!!
Learning the difference as we progressed, Timing chain Vs gear to gear now a distributor............... what else will we find before it is running?
The block that came out had a cylinder that was beyond repair and the machine shop had a "fresh machines I6 block" so we went with it !!!
Learning the difference as we progressed, Timing chain Vs gear to gear now a distributor............... what else will we find before it is running?
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Long story !
The block that came out had a cylinder that was beyond repair and the machine shop had a "fresh machines I6 block" so we went with it !!!
Learning the difference as we progressed, Timing chain Vs gear to gear now a distributor............... what else will we find before it is running?
The block that came out had a cylinder that was beyond repair and the machine shop had a "fresh machines I6 block" so we went with it !!!
Learning the difference as we progressed, Timing chain Vs gear to gear now a distributor............... what else will we find before it is running?
What you have to be very careful with is the original 223 exhaust manifold which was also used with some 262's.
This manifold was notorious for cracking, there are no new (NOS) manifolds available, a used manifold without cracks is very hard to find.
The only good news: 1954/64 car 223; 1954/64 truck 223; and some 1961/64 262 used the same manifold.
But, the 262 exhaust manifold used on C550/600; F600 & N500 is different than used on F100/250, probably because the collector is in a different location.
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We have the head for the 262 and it is complete
Please you do not have to search catalogs, just use your GOOD memorie !!!
WE are grateful for your help
We will look over the ex, manifold carefully as it is from the 223 53 truck this is going into
Please you do not have to search catalogs, just use your GOOD memorie !!!
WE are grateful for your help
We will look over the ex, manifold carefully as it is from the 223 53 truck this is going into
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I wish we would have known that BEFORE we rebuilt the block we had!
Right, they look the same UNTIL you you change the cam chain with a gear and find out your distributor does/will not work!!
Right, they look the same UNTIL you you change the cam chain with a gear and find out your distributor does/will not work!!
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Even though they look similar, almost EVERYTHING is different between 223-262.
Parts for the 262 are extremely hard to find....you may want to find a 223 and start over with that, much more common.
Parts for the 262 are extremely hard to find....you may want to find a 223 and start over with that, much more common.
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UPDATE
Well I am still having some fits with the distributor we converted from the 223!!
The gear and oil pump shaft is complete new points and rotor changed
B U T?
the rotation is correct for the engine BUT the vacuum advance is working in the WRONG direction !
So will the engine have any power under load WITHOUT a vacuum advance
or is there something I can retrofit or, even better Jim Koz do you still have a distributor for the 262 !!!!
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UPDATE
Well I am still having some fits with the distributor we converted from the 223!!
The gear and oil pump shaft is complete new points and rotor changed
B U T?
the rotation is correct for the engine BUT the vacuum advance is working in the WRONG direction !
So will the engine have any power under load WITHOUT a vacuum advance
or is there something I can retrofit or, even better Jim Koz do you still have a distributor for the 262 !!!!
Well I am still having some fits with the distributor we converted from the 223!!
The gear and oil pump shaft is complete new points and rotor changed
B U T?
the rotation is correct for the engine BUT the vacuum advance is working in the WRONG direction !
So will the engine have any power under load WITHOUT a vacuum advance
or is there something I can retrofit or, even better Jim Koz do you still have a distributor for the 262 !!!!
The 240/300 Distributor will give you Centrifugal and vac advance unlike the load a matic 223/262 distributors.
The 240/300 I6 distributors are 5/16" drive but the 262 and later 223 distributors are also 5/16" Drive, the earlier ones are 1/4"
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...the rotation is correct for the engine BUT the vacuum advance is working in the WRONG direction ! So will the engine have any power under load WITHOUT a vacuum advance
Normally vacuum advance only adds more timing when the engine load starts to level off and manifold vacuum comes back up. At steady level cruise when engine load is lightest it will be at the maximum. When under load and acceleration, i.e. when you stomp the go pedal - engine vacuum goes bye-bye, and so does the vacuum advance.
Set mechanical timing first - initial and distributor - with vacuum advance port disconnected and plugged. This may take a few test drives, make sure it will advance mechanically to spec at high RPM. When satisfied with how it runs, reconnect vacuum advance and tune the can only.
Normally vacuum advance only adds more timing when the engine load starts to level off and manifold vacuum comes back up. At steady level cruise when engine load is lightest it will be at the maximum. When under load and acceleration, i.e. when you stomp the go pedal - engine vacuum goes bye-bye, and so does the vacuum advance.
Set mechanical timing first - initial and distributor - with vacuum advance port disconnected and plugged. This may take a few test drives, make sure it will advance mechanically to spec at high RPM. When satisfied with how it runs, reconnect vacuum advance and tune the can only.
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UPDATE
Well I am still having some fits with the distributor we converted from the 223!!
The gear and oil pump shaft is complete new points and rotor changed
B U T?
the rotation is correct for the engine BUT the vacuum advance is working in the WRONG direction !
So will the engine have any power under load WITHOUT a vacuum advance
or is there something I can retrofit or, even better Jim Koz do you still have a distributor for the 262 !!!!
Well I am still having some fits with the distributor we converted from the 223!!
The gear and oil pump shaft is complete new points and rotor changed
B U T?
the rotation is correct for the engine BUT the vacuum advance is working in the WRONG direction !
So will the engine have any power under load WITHOUT a vacuum advance
or is there something I can retrofit or, even better Jim Koz do you still have a distributor for the 262 !!!!
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I am wondering (as I often do) if the were two 262's, one Light Duty and the other a Medium/Heavy Truck (of the period). The 262MD/HD has a gear dive so therefore it would be a reverse rotation valve-train and a few are talking normal rotation (which would be a chain drive).
There are also described different sizes of housings also.
This is similar to the 302/332 LYB of the period.
I can't see a gear drive 262 in a 1961 pickup. Makes no sense.
I wish I had my MPC's back...
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The only reason for the gear drive, as the engine was changed out because of what was available to us at the time
Yes the cam is using the standard 262 cam which has a gear to gear cam/crank
We are just trying to fit all the parts that were missing from the new long block and head
The distributor seemed to be the major concern,(rotation-pump shaft) I found a gear, but what I am hearing you say is your distributor has the "right" hand cut gear which is for a timing chain.
The left cut dist gear is for the gear to gear correct?
The 223 dist we have fits the block (262)
Yes the cam is using the standard 262 cam which has a gear to gear cam/crank
We are just trying to fit all the parts that were missing from the new long block and head
The distributor seemed to be the major concern,(rotation-pump shaft) I found a gear, but what I am hearing you say is your distributor has the "right" hand cut gear which is for a timing chain.
The left cut dist gear is for the gear to gear correct?
The 223 dist we have fits the block (262)
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Some updates "Just" to keep me informed!!!
Thanks for all the help on solving the questions and locating the parts for the distributor
the 262 runs like a swiss watch !!!
NOW on to the Dastardly fuel leak from the stock Holley fuel bowl
The carb starts fine and idles down to <500rpm if needed
But I am trying to find/fix the 1BBl carb!
Thanks for all the help on solving the questions and locating the parts for the distributor
the 262 runs like a swiss watch !!!
NOW on to the Dastardly fuel leak from the stock Holley fuel bowl
The carb starts fine and idles down to <500rpm if needed
But I am trying to find/fix the 1BBl carb!
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