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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 01:43 PM
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So you can see from the photo my AC condensor is pretty well f'd. My AC guy at work says I prolly wont be able to straighten the fins back out. My ac in the truck works when it wants to. At idle pretty well but driving it warms up. Sometimes works great, usually when its cold out. I'm sure this mangled mess isnt helping. My question is, replace just yhe condenser or so compressor and accumulator at the same time? I dont know what is actually wrong with the system and don't "want" to spend the extra $ on the other items if I dont need them. But I kinda feel like I might as well. What do you guys think?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 02:10 PM
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Is it holding the refrigerant in -- any needed to be added AT all? Assume your AC guy's checked pressures and all else appears normal...?

If all else is fine, how much time to you have to spare? Versus money to spend, that is...

I have spent hours with "dental" picks, painstakingly straightening the fins on a condenser worse than yours. And it brought it back to life...

Good luck!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by diesel_dan
Is it holding the refrigerant in -- any needed to be added AT all? Assume your AC guy's checked pressures and all else appears normal...?

If all else is fine, how much time to you have to spare? Versus money to spend, that is...

I have spent hours with "dental" picks, painstakingly straightening the fins on a condenser worse than yours. And it brought it back to life...

Good luck!
it holds fine. We will be checking pressures and what not tomorrow. I would imagine it isn't too hard to replace? Also can you tell me the proper readings to get from the system? High/low and the amount of refrigerant it actually needs to be "full". I've read high should be 200-225 and low 35-45 that seem right? As for time, it is at a premium these days as is money so the condenser is relatively cheap will probably replace it but the compressor and what not adds more time and more money so I'm jw if its really neeed. I guess ill have to see what we find out.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 02:21 PM
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They do make a fin comb which would speed up the process but a chair, small screwdriver and patience will work fine.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 02:21 PM
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my 03 sounds like it has the same problem you are having, but my condenser is in pretty good shape , just got a set of gauges to check pressures, keep you posted on what i find
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by team5150
my 03 sounds like it has the same problem you are having, but my condenser is in pretty good shape , just got a set of gauges to check pressures, keep you posted on what i find
please. I Will do the same. And yea I'm gonna do the comb first before buying anything. Luckily my guy is pretty good so he will find what's wromg I'm sure.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by VictorwithaC
it holds fine. We will be checking pressures and what not tomorrow. I would imagine it isn't too hard to replace? Also can you tell me the proper readings to get from the system? High/low and the amount of refrigerant it actually needs to be "full". I've read high should be 200-225 and low 35-45 that seem right? As for time, it is at a premium these days as is money so the condenser is relatively cheap will probably replace it but the compressor and what not adds more time and more money so I'm jw if its really neeed. I guess ill have to see what we find out.
Sorry can't help you on pressure readings - your AC guy should know. If you replace the condenser, a friend told me always replace the receiver/drier whenever you replace other components in the system, as I think that is where it filters the refrigerant?

I don't think they are that expensive, but haven't checked for our trucks. Hope someone with more knowledge can step in here...

Scott
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by diesel_dan
Sorry can't help you on pressure readings - your AC guy should know. If you replace the condenser, a friend told me always replace the receiver/drier whenever you replace other components in the system, as I think that is where it filters the refrigerant?

I don't think they are that expensive, but haven't checked for our trucks. Hope someone with more knowledge can step in here...

Scott
luckily I just spoke with him and he just did a compressor condenser and dryer on a 6.0 so hes pretty confident he'll find my issue. I will report back with what we find either tomorrow or he has duty Friday if it takes too long but ill have an answer for the next guy with my problem.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by VictorwithaC
it holds fine. We will be checking pressures and what not tomorrow. I would imagine it isn't too hard to replace? Also can you tell me the proper readings to get from the system? High/low and the amount of refrigerant it actually needs to be "full". I've read high should be 200-225 and low 35-45 that seem right? As for time, it is at a premium these days as is money so the condenser is relatively cheap will probably replace it but the compressor and what not adds more time and more money so I'm jw if its really neeed. I guess ill have to see what we find out.
Pressures are dependent on ambient temp, humidity and barometric pressure. That's why they have charts. A pro can charge by the "by gosh and by golly" method but an amateur can do expensive harm such as slugging a compressor.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 03:20 PM
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Pressures are dependent on ambient temp, humidity and barometric pressure. That's why they have charts. A pro can charge by the "by gosh and by golly" method but an amateur can do expensive harm such as slugging a compressor.
Is there a specific chart for our trucks or just one on Google will work?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 06:07 PM
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Is there a specific chart for our trucks or just one on Google will work?
The chart is based on the freon. In your case 134A. Google it and you can print the chart out.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 06:26 PM
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The chart is based on the freon. In your case 134A. Google it and you can print the chart out.
thank you I will do that
 
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Later today I'll post the service PDFs for you.
They have all the info you need and a few thing
you don't know you need and do.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2017 | 05:32 AM
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Later today I'll post the service PDFs for you.
They have all the info you need and a few thing
you don't know you need and do.
I would really appreciate that.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 04:05 AM
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Ok there may be some duplicates But here we go. Let me know if I missed anything.

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