Bumper/5th Wheel/Payload sticker?
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Bumper/5th Wheel/Payload sticker?
After reading some posts I'm even more confused. My Door Payload sticker say 1500lbs (for people & Cargo) on my 2017 F250 6.7 short bed. The question I have is when towing a trailer does the bumper hitch or 5th wheel weight of 1000LBS get subtracted from what the Door Payload sticker says? if so that leaves only 500 pounds, so I am 235 wife 150= 385 not much left. Doesn't seem right.
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tongue weight is the load from the trailer that gets transferred to the truck in the form of payload.
Bumper pull trailers typically transfer 10% of the trailer GVW to the truck.
5th wheels you can figure 20% of the trailer will become payload. king pin wt is where that comes from.
My advice, go weight the truck full of fuel/people/cargo that you plan to carry in the truck. Get your GVW and steer and axle weights.
Then your GVWR minus that gives you what is avail to load on the truck.
now what is really important is the axle and tire ratings. Just don't exceed those. That is the concern.
Bumper pull trailers typically transfer 10% of the trailer GVW to the truck.
5th wheels you can figure 20% of the trailer will become payload. king pin wt is where that comes from.
My advice, go weight the truck full of fuel/people/cargo that you plan to carry in the truck. Get your GVW and steer and axle weights.
Then your GVWR minus that gives you what is avail to load on the truck.
now what is really important is the axle and tire ratings. Just don't exceed those. That is the concern.
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[QUOTE=SkidsUP;17269111]After reading some posts I'm even more confused. My Door Payload sticker say 1500lbs (for people & Cargo) on my 2017 F250 6.7 short bed. The question I have is when towing a trailer does the bumper hitch or 5th wheel weight of 1000LBS get subtracted from what the Door Payload sticker says? if so that leaves only 500 pounds, so I am 235 wife 150= 385 not much left. Doesn't seem right.[/QUOTE
First of all, the door sticker is correct. You only have as much as it says for hitch weight or pin weight plus passengers and gear.
Unfortunately you have discovered that the true limiting factor for towing is the payload rating, and not the max towed weight. This is a common issue with a f250 with the diesel engine combined with a high option level. The 6.7l alone lowers payload by about 700 lbs, and all those options take care of the rest.
This is the reason I went from a F-150 to a F-350.
The F-150 only had a 1500 lb payload, and my travel trailer hitch weight, passengers, and gear exceeded that by a fair margin. That truck was not a stable towing platform with those conditions.
There some on these forums that argue you should ignore that sticker, and tow whatever you want, however I do not subscribe to that theory. I personally will not intentionally load beyond the ratings. Doing that got me into trouble with my previous truck.
First of all, the door sticker is correct. You only have as much as it says for hitch weight or pin weight plus passengers and gear.
Unfortunately you have discovered that the true limiting factor for towing is the payload rating, and not the max towed weight. This is a common issue with a f250 with the diesel engine combined with a high option level. The 6.7l alone lowers payload by about 700 lbs, and all those options take care of the rest.
This is the reason I went from a F-150 to a F-350.
The F-150 only had a 1500 lb payload, and my travel trailer hitch weight, passengers, and gear exceeded that by a fair margin. That truck was not a stable towing platform with those conditions.
There some on these forums that argue you should ignore that sticker, and tow whatever you want, however I do not subscribe to that theory. I personally will not intentionally load beyond the ratings. Doing that got me into trouble with my previous truck.
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That was my dilemma
[QUOTE=Screamingbear;17814108]
My current F-150 has payload of#1607lbs and I was at the limits with my 5er lite so I started on the trail of buying a SD. Knowing the situation of my friend WRT payload and F-250 diesels I considered the 6.2 gas. However, seeing how we’re doing several major trips over mountain passes and the like I settled on a F-350. I figured that I’d keep the base GVWR as in my province the DOT (bumblebee police; found out their called that because of the paint scheme of the vehicles) do go by GVWR, payload, GAWR, and tire load rating when the do their spot checks. (Based on what I’ve read). So although I’ll have to pay higher registration, insurance and the like. I know that I’m 100% complient and safe (most importantly).
After reading some posts I'm even more confused. My Door Payload sticker say 1500lbs (for people & Cargo) on my 2017 F250 6.7 short bed. The question I have is when towing a trailer does the bumper hitch or 5th wheel weight of 1000LBS get subtracted from what the Door Payload sticker says? if so that leaves only 500 pounds, so I am 235 wife 150= 385 not much left. Doesn't seem right.[/QUOTE
First of all, the door sticker is correct. You only have as much as it says for hitch weight or pin weight plus passengers and gear.
Unfortunately you have discovered that the true limiting factor for towing is the payload rating, and not the max towed weight. This is a common issue with a f250 with the diesel engine combined with a high option level. The 6.7l alone lowers payload by about 700 lbs, and all those options take care of the rest.
This is the reason I went from a F-150 to a F-350.
The F-150 only had a 1500 lb payload, and my travel trailer hitch weight, passengers, and gear exceeded that by a fair margin. That truck was not a stable towing platform with those conditions.
There some on these forums that argue you should ignore that sticker, and tow whatever you want, however I do not subscribe to that theory. I personally will not intentionally load beyond the ratings. Doing that got me into trouble with my previous truck.
First of all, the door sticker is correct. You only have as much as it says for hitch weight or pin weight plus passengers and gear.
Unfortunately you have discovered that the true limiting factor for towing is the payload rating, and not the max towed weight. This is a common issue with a f250 with the diesel engine combined with a high option level. The 6.7l alone lowers payload by about 700 lbs, and all those options take care of the rest.
This is the reason I went from a F-150 to a F-350.
The F-150 only had a 1500 lb payload, and my travel trailer hitch weight, passengers, and gear exceeded that by a fair margin. That truck was not a stable towing platform with those conditions.
There some on these forums that argue you should ignore that sticker, and tow whatever you want, however I do not subscribe to that theory. I personally will not intentionally load beyond the ratings. Doing that got me into trouble with my previous truck.
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I have a CCSB 6.7L Diesel 4x4 and my payload is ~2,600 LBS.
What options could he have that take out about 1,100 lbs of payload? Yikes. I guess if you're getting a Platinum you better be getting the F350.
What options could he have that take out about 1,100 lbs of payload? Yikes. I guess if you're getting a Platinum you better be getting the F350.
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After reading some posts I'm even more confused. My Door Payload sticker say 1500lbs (for people & Cargo) on my 2017 F250 6.7 short bed. The question I have is when towing a trailer does the bumper hitch or 5th wheel weight of 1000LBS get subtracted from what the Door Payload sticker says? if so that leaves only 500 pounds, so I am 235 wife 150= 385 not much left. Doesn't seem right.
F-250's aren't great for towing 5th wheels for this very issue. I originally wanted a 250, but when I did the research, we went with a 350.
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