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Old Jun 3, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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bellhousing i.d.

I just bought this bellhousing.
Can someone recommend a transmission?
I would use it with a '49 H flathead 6
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 09:04 AM
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That is a passenger car type bell. Ford passenger car transmissions from 49-64? should bolt onto it. Ford truck light duty three speed transmissions from 53-64? should bolt onto it. I'm not sure of the change over year for Ford wide pattern transmissions. If you find a dual pattern transmission I think the inside pattern still bolts to this bell.

A different concern is the depth of the bell. That looks deeper than my memory of Ford flathead 6 car bells. Hopefully I am wrong.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 02:39 PM
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Fred,

It was an ebay item, advertised as for a 6.

Is it the kind of bell that would take a Tremec 5 speed?

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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 05:03 PM
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With all due respect to EBay, it's been my experience that some EBayers don't have a clue what they're selling and try to fake it.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mixer man
With all due respect to EBay, it's been my experience that some EBayers don't have a clue what they're selling and try to fake it.
I hope this outfit would know
http://mobile.dudasite.com/site/rpmc...cted=true#3024
 
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Chambers
Yep, and I can personally vouch for them. I have purchased parts for my F-6 COE there.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mixer man
Yep, and I can personally vouch for them. I have purchased parts for my F-6 COE there.
that is kinda the "read" I got from looking at their web site.
Anyway, parts hunting for 70 year old Fords has proven to be "stimulating".
Here is a photo of a the bell I bought.
Comparing it to an 8 bell photo (from Wilcap, another good outfit, I assume?)
There are some subtle differences on the starter plate side, but the transmission
pattern side looks like i can bolt up T-5s and several years of Ford trans with a
1 1/16" input shaft,

The interesting thing is the starter plate from the '49 engine I'm concentrating on fits the '47 engine I just aquired, so maybe I just created a "back up" engine?
 
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the rust clashes with the blue

but all the holes line up!
about 5 1/2" from flywheel to transmission mount.
 
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49-51 passenger car bell for sure. The clutch is a push from the front instead of the twist from the side that the 32-48 cars and 32-52 trucks use. Most adapter plates I have seen are set up to bolt to the 32-48 cast in bell housing. That is duplicated by using the appropriate 48-52 truck bolt on bell. I have no idea what the front of a Tremec 5 speed looks like so I can't help you there.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 07:31 PM
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I think you're right

Originally Posted by 38 coupe
49-51 passenger car bell for sure. The clutch is a push from the front instead of the twist from the side that the 32-48 cars and 32-52 trucks use. Most adapter plates I have seen are set up to bolt to the 32-48 cast in bell housing. That is duplicated by using the appropriate 48-52 truck bolt on bell. I have no idea what the front of a Tremec 5 speed looks like so I can't help you there.
My only hope is that there is one out there.
Another question, were car 6 trannys different from car V8 trannys?
 
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No, starting in 1949 and lasting through at least 1954 the V8 and 6 motors used the same transmissions. The only exception during the remaining flathead years was 1951 when you could get an automatic behind the V8 but not the flathead 6.
 
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