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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 07:02 AM
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The one you linked is too short. That is the one I have and it does not increase the range that much. The one I listed, if I understand correctly, is long enough to be mounted up in the headliner. Ignore the bi directional part. Although I will say an aftermarket two way is the best way to go if you want a true remote start, this is the cheapest method. Also, FORscan is the best option for activating remote start since IDS is cost prohibitive and the bootleg versions are not user friendly. In fact, IDS is not user friendly period.
The one you linked is the same antenna but with a bit longer cable. It's used in the 11-15 Explorer OEM remote start kit and is an alternative to the DA8Z-15603-A. Those year Explorers have the TPMS sitting in the back of the center console, so the cable routes from there up to the dash. However, I've seen where it's still not a very long cable (it barely reaches to the dash), so it's still going to be tough on the F-150 to get it to reach all the way up the headliner. Even then, the range still isn't very far, Ford still advertises a maximum 300'.

Now there is a Ford long-range solution, and can even be done as a bi-directional kit. For the 11-14 F-150 you can get the following items if you want bi-directional:

- DL3Z-19A361-A
- DL3Z-15603-C
- DL3Z-15K601-A (if you want more than 1 FOB just order more of these)
- DA8Z-15603-A (if you currently don't have remote start on the truck)

The nice thing about this kit is, unlike aftermarket remote starts, it is entirely plug-and-play. That means no wire splicing involved at all. Also the functions are controlled in the driver information display menu, so it completely integrates with the truck same as the factory remote start. This kit also upgrades the alarm to give you a shock sensor. I like this option much better than the aftermarket, mainly because for too many years I've chased down too many crappy alarm and remote start installs that have hacked the factory wiring and caused all sorts of issues. They're fine if they are installed correctly, but that seems to become more and more rare these days. Most Best Buy's and stereo shops keep using those scotch-lock connectors that fail all the time, and they use them so they can advertise "free" installs. Sure, that free install is done in 20 minutes, and will cost hundreds of dollars down the road in wiring repairs and electrical diagnostics.

As for the Forscan vs IDS, I can only speak for IDS. Never used Forscan and I personally don't have a need for it. But to each their own. Then again I work with a lot of Ford dealers so I get the access to IDS that most people don't.

Anyway, hope this info helps everyone.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 08:17 AM
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The longer antenna is what most have switched to and put it up in the headliner. It is supposedly long enough since the TPMS module is right below the passenger side A pillar. The range of the other antenna just isn't very good.

FORscan is just more user friendly. It also has options that IDS doesn't.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 03:36 PM
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Allrighty gang...I have my supplies...antenna, extender wire, 2 keys that still need to be cut and the Forscan download. I'm getting conflicting/confusing information with regards to the keys. Specifically...the need to have BOTH of the original keys in order to reprogram the new ones. I only have one key. Bottom line questions... 1. do I need to have BOTH keys in order to reprogram the new ones or 2. will I in fact be required to purchase keys from the dealership/locksmith and have them programmed by them as well? Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 04:07 PM
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My belief is that if you have Forscan, you can program the new keys into the system.

Normally to add SKIM keys, you do need 2 working keys, but if you have to use Forscan to set remote start, there should be the option there to add keys.

Though I have not done it.

I only had one key when I got my used truck, a neighbor ford tech brought home a "work pc notebook", hooked up to the obd2 connector and was done in less than 4-5 minutes. Added 2 keys to the system. I don't know what program or software he was using.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 2jhanna
My belief is that if you have Forscan, you can program the new keys into the system.

Normally to add SKIM keys, you do need 2 working keys, but if you have to use Forscan to set remote start, there should be the option there to add keys.

Though I have not done it.

I only had one key when I got my used truck, a neighbor ford tech brought home a "work pc notebook", hooked up to the obd2 connector and was done in less than 4-5 minutes. Added 2 keys to the system. I don't know what program or software he was using.
FORscan can supposedly now program keys but I haven't done it either. It used to not be an option with FORscan.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 04:08 PM
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installed the antenna and extension wire then went to Hone Depot and Lowe's...no luck...looks like getting the keys cut is going to be the challenge...
 
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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 04:35 PM
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installed the antenna and extension wire then went to Hone Depot and Lowe's...no luck...looks like getting the keys cut is going to be the challenge...
I had to go to a "real" locksmith shop to get mine cut this last time. Lowes, Home Depot, and Ace hardware store guys said it was against store policy, and they didn't want the liability if the keys didn't work, got mis-cut, etc.

Lowes had done some for me before, 1 time even free, but I guess no more.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dickiefrank
installed the antenna and extension wire then went to Hone Depot and Lowe's...no luck...looks like getting the keys cut is going to be the challenge...
The dealer cut mine for free but I buy allot of parts from them through work.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 05:41 PM
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I'll be looking for maybe an ACE Hardware since Lowe's and Home Depot were a bust...
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 06:17 PM
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I'll be looking for maybe an ACE Hardware since Lowe's and Home Depot were a bust...
If this doesn't work, try a real locksmith shop. That's what I had to do, Ace turned me down.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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Bummer

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If this doesn't work, try a real locksmith shop. That's what I had to do, Ace turned me down.
well darn...was hoping to avoid a locksmith or dealership...big $$$ I bet
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 07:40 PM
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well darn...was hoping to avoid a locksmith or dealership...big $$$ I bet
Locksmith charged me $4 per key. I had 2 cut. I could live with that.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2017 | 01:19 AM
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$4 each huh...I could live with that too...thanks...
 
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Old Nov 20, 2017 | 02:48 PM
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2011 (2009-2014) XLT Cellular Remote Start (Cost = $385)

I take NO credit for any of the following information, but with that said it took me hours of scouring forums to piece this all together.... so... I thought I'd start a thread so that if the next person searches for, will find everything they need to know all in one place, in one post, instead of bits and pieces scattered across a thousand posts and multiple forums (LOL).

This was done on my 2011 F-150 XLT, but I don't know of any reason why this wouldn't work on any 2009-2014 F-150 that has no remote start to begin with:

STEP 1:
Parts Needed:
DL3Z-19A361-A (VSS)
DL3Z-19A390-B (RMU)
Available as a 'kit' here from LevittownFordParts: https://www.levittownfordparts.com/m...al-p-6313.html
Cost (at time of this post): $355 + Shipping = $370-ish

Additional Items Needed:
- Install Forscan Application for Windows (free download @ Download FORScan)
- Register an account on Forscan.org (needed for next part, and is also free)
- Generate 'Extended License' at forscan.org here: FORScan forum ? Login (also free)
- OBD II Connector (Cheap is fine... you do NOT need the MS-CAN capabilities, I bought a WIFI OBD II Connector on amazon for $17 here:
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STEP 2:
Install/Initial Config: Literally took me about 15 minutes, instructions here: https://www.levittownfordparts.com/d...1_23_2015_.pdf
NOTE: The relevant pages are 135-140 & 152-155; ignore the rest of it on Page 155 about 'RMU Activation' and 'VSS Learning' since the VSS was already learned on page 140 the first time. Just install the two units and then 'Learn' the VSS to the vehicle once.

STEP 3:
Using Forscan, change the following BdyCM Values:
- In 726-19-01, change 0047 (disabled) to 0148 (enabled)
The settings to enable remote start are found in the Body Control Module (AS BUILT format)

Using Forscan, change the following IPC Values:
- In 720-01-02, change 6C0A (disabled) to 6F0A (enabled)
The Instrument Panel Cluster settings are found in the IPC Module Configuration (AS BUILT format)
(NOTE 1: This change is not NEEDED for this to work, but it is a nice touch to have it show up in your display under 'settings vehicle remote start'
(NOTE 2: Here is a great document (tutorial) about using forscan, including backing everything up first BEFORE making any changes... highly recommended!: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing)

STEP 4: Reach out to Benny at Levittown Ford Parts telling him you are ready to go. He will do everything needed from there over the phone and it will take all of 15 minutes or so (usually). He is absolutely fantastic, and I wouldn't recommend anyone else.

STEP 5: Download install Ford Remote Access App:
- iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ford...587040067?mt=8
- Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ess.ford&hl=en

From there you should be all set! Hope this saves the next person some time and anxiety trying to figure it out!

Cheers Everyone!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2017 | 05:38 PM
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The factory set up sounds like my next attempt. Thanks for bringing this up. I wish I had know before this...

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...evo-one-2.html

I'm going to give it a try too.
 
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