F-450 with studded tires (for winter)
#1
05-24-2017, 02:50 PM
F-450 with studded tires (for winter)
I am going to purchase a set of winter tires, and I would like them to be studded. I have a 2017 F-450, and after looking at what is available in the 225/70R19.5, the only one I found that expressly mentions studs in the literature is the Toyo M608, "accepts TSMI #15 winter studs". The Toyo literature did not say whether the tires are predrilled, but I emailed them and they responded that the tires are predrilled. Have I missed a different tire set that is known to be used with studs?
I do not plan to tow at all in the winter, and if I haul anything it will be a light load, so it came to mind to see if there is such a tire as an LT225/70R19.5, but I could not find any. I thought maybe there were more tire options at a reduced load rating.
As far as studded tires are concerned, does a shop mount and balance the tire prior to inserting the studs?
I do not plan to tow at all in the winter, and if I haul anything it will be a light load, so it came to mind to see if there is such a tire as an LT225/70R19.5, but I could not find any. I thought maybe there were more tire options at a reduced load rating.
As far as studded tires are concerned, does a shop mount and balance the tire prior to inserting the studs?
#2
05-24-2017, 03:16 PM
Not a judgement, just a question. Why would you prefer studded tires over other options like good non-studded winter tires and/or chains? I have never used studded tires personally, and have always had a good non-studded winter tire on my trucks and never needed chains or anything. That includes the 2' of snow we used to get overnight where we used to live in PA. Just curious why you may choose one over the other?
Here is what Oregon Dept. of Transportation has to say about it here, not gospel, and other locations vary:
Here is what Oregon Dept. of Transportation has to say about it here, not gospel, and other locations vary:
Originally Posted by ODOT website
Oregon state law allows motorists to use studded tires from Nov. 1 through March 31. Because studded tires damage Oregon highways, ODOT encourages drivers to consider using chains or non-studded traction tires.
Studless traction tires that meet Rubber Manufacturers Association standards for use in severe snow conditions carry a special symbol on the tire sidewall: a three-peaked mountain and snowflake. Research shows these tires provide better traction than studded tires on bare pavement.
Studded tire facts
You can use studded tires in Oregon from Nov. 1 through March 31. Driving with studded tires before Nov. 1 or after March 31 is a Class C violation and carries a presumptive fine of nearly $200.
Research shows that studded tires are more effective than all-weather tires on icy roads, but are less effective in most other conditions because they may reduce traction between the road and the tire.
Damage from studded tires cost Oregonians approximately $8.5 million a year because roadways required repaving earlier than they normally would be.
When it rains, water collects in the pavement ruts caused by studded tires and creates dangerous driving conditions. In cold weather, that water can freeze and cause extra-slippery roads.
Alternatives to studded tires
Chains and chain-like devices
Chains are more effective than studded tires and are becoming easier to use.
Link chains may not be recommended for use on some types of vehicles; check your owner’s manual.
Other traction tires
Traction tires other than studded tires provide increased traction in winter conditions.
They work about as well as studded tires on ice, but work better than studded tires or regular tires in most other winter conditions.
These other traction tires cause no more damage to road surfaces than regular tires.
Studless traction tires that meet Rubber Manufacturers Association standards for use in severe snow conditions carry a special symbol on the tire sidewall: a three-peaked mountain and snowflake. Research shows these tires provide better traction than studded tires on bare pavement.
Studded tire facts
You can use studded tires in Oregon from Nov. 1 through March 31. Driving with studded tires before Nov. 1 or after March 31 is a Class C violation and carries a presumptive fine of nearly $200.
Research shows that studded tires are more effective than all-weather tires on icy roads, but are less effective in most other conditions because they may reduce traction between the road and the tire.
Damage from studded tires cost Oregonians approximately $8.5 million a year because roadways required repaving earlier than they normally would be.
When it rains, water collects in the pavement ruts caused by studded tires and creates dangerous driving conditions. In cold weather, that water can freeze and cause extra-slippery roads.
Alternatives to studded tires
Chains and chain-like devices
Chains are more effective than studded tires and are becoming easier to use.
Link chains may not be recommended for use on some types of vehicles; check your owner’s manual.
Other traction tires
Traction tires other than studded tires provide increased traction in winter conditions.
They work about as well as studded tires on ice, but work better than studded tires or regular tires in most other winter conditions.
These other traction tires cause no more damage to road surfaces than regular tires.
#3
05-24-2017, 03:41 PM
Neighbors' driveways are level, but they only pass by in 4x4 with a running start to get over the hump. We have to slow down and turn up hill to get in the driveway, if you don't make it end up slide down the far side of lane and stuck between the embankment and the edge of the hump.
I have never used studded tires personally, and have always had a good non-studded winter tire on my trucks and never needed chains or anything. That includes the 2' of snow we used to get overnight where we used to live in PA. Just curious why you may choose one over the other?
Here is what Oregon Dept. of Transportation has to say about it here, not gospel, and other locations vary:
Here is what Oregon Dept. of Transportation has to say about it here, not gospel, and other locations vary:
#4
05-24-2017, 03:50 PM
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#5
05-24-2017, 09:50 PM
Yes,the 19.5 inch rim size is really going to limit your options. But, there has to be a lot of tires that can be studded in this category, you just may well need to plan ahead and order.
Yes, most often studs are mounted on a tire when it's on the rim. Preferably balanced prior and installed on a new tire as it's labour intensive to clean out the rock and stuff to get a good balance otherwise.
That beast of a 450 would work even better with a big blade in the front and a huge sand spreader for weight on the back, I doubt ice would be much an issue with liberal applications of sand on the ice.
Yes, most often studs are mounted on a tire when it's on the rim. Preferably balanced prior and installed on a new tire as it's labour intensive to clean out the rock and stuff to get a good balance otherwise.
That beast of a 450 would work even better with a big blade in the front and a huge sand spreader for weight on the back, I doubt ice would be much an issue with liberal applications of sand on the ice.
#6
05-24-2017, 09:51 PM
Yes,the 19.5 inch rim size is really going to limit your options. But, there has to be a lot of tires that can be studded in this category, you just may well need to plan ahead and order.
Yes, most often studs are mounted on a tire when it's on the rim. Preferably balanced prior and installed on a new tire as it's labour intensive to clean out the rock and stuff to get a good balance otherwise.
That beast of a 450 would work even better with a big blade in the front and a huge sand spreader for weight on the back, I doubt ice would be much an issue with liberal applications of sand on the ice.
Yes, most often studs are mounted on a tire when it's on the rim. Preferably balanced prior and installed on a new tire as it's labour intensive to clean out the rock and stuff to get a good balance otherwise.
That beast of a 450 would work even better with a big blade in the front and a huge sand spreader for weight on the back, I doubt ice would be much an issue with liberal applications of sand on the ice.
#7
05-24-2017, 09:52 PM
Yes,the 19.5 inch rim size is really going to limit your options. But, there has to be a lot of tires that can be studded in this category, you just may well need to plan ahead and order.
Yes, most often studs are mounted on a tire when it's on the rim. Preferably balanced prior and installed on a new tire as it's labour intensive to clean out the rock and stuff to get a good balance otherwise.
That beast of a 450 would work even better with a big blade in the front and a huge sand spreader for weight on the back, I doubt ice would be much an issue with liberal applications of sand on the ice.
Yes, most often studs are mounted on a tire when it's on the rim. Preferably balanced prior and installed on a new tire as it's labour intensive to clean out the rock and stuff to get a good balance otherwise.
That beast of a 450 would work even better with a big blade in the front and a huge sand spreader for weight on the back, I doubt ice would be much an issue with liberal applications of sand on the ice.
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#8
05-25-2017, 06:46 AM
I don't have a preferred tire shop. My thought was, if the tires are mounted on the wheels, then I could drive north to shop that has (presumably) more experience at studding. Since the tires are predrilled, I didn't know if the tire balancing process might cause dirt to fill the predrilled holes. There is a shop in Ohio near lake Erie that advertises that they do stud tires. I could load up the truck bed with the tires and drive there and back in a day. Any further north, we'd probably stay the night somewhere / make a weekend trip out of it.
#9
05-25-2017, 06:59 AM
We have considered it, but we are not in that business, and that stuff has to be stored in the off season. We decided to go with studded tires, we have room in the basement to store the tires.
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