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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 07:02 PM
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Another 6.0 No start.

Hello all. This has me puzzled to no end. After my son had put fuel in my truck it began to run rough, and had to be towed home, and now won't start. Now the first thing I thought was that he put regular gas in. But he was sure he had not ,and the receipt from the pump indicates diesel. It was hard starting before this happened.
1st Has anyone had the misfortune of having gas put in instead of diesel and did your vehicle run afterwards.
2nd Here are my readings from my scangage:
Sync Yes/1, Ficm main power 48.5 v, ICV .17 (2.01 when cranking). ICP 1572
IPR 50.7.

Checked upper fuel filter for bubbles, none.
Engine oil pressure comes up immediately on cranking.

Don't know what else to check, these readings look fine to me.
Only the fuel is something I'm not 100% sure of. It does smell like diesel not gasoline.
Thx in advance.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 07:21 PM
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RPM? Needs at least 150.
Program fuel pulse width into the scan gauge, see if it's commanding fuel. As long as you don't smell gas, should be good.

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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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Do you frequent this station. Check your fuel for gas again it's possible the big truck that tops the station off could have mixed his load. Maybe ask anyone else that may have fueled there and see if they have had issues after fueling up or even ask the station clerk.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
RPM? Needs at least 150.
Program fuel pulse width into the scan gauge, see if it's commanding fuel. As long as you don't smell gas, should be good.

Welcome to the site.
I will give that a go and thx for the welcome.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FiznUKa
Do you frequent this station. Check your fuel for gas again it's possible the big truck that tops the station off could have mixed his load. Maybe ask anyone else that may have fueled there and see if they have had issues after fueling up or even ask the station clerk.
Yes I fuel up there all the time never a problem and never heard of one.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
RPM? Needs at least 150.
Program fuel pulse width into the scan gauge, see if it's commanding fuel. As long as you don't smell gas, should be good.

Welcome to the site.
cant seem to find fuel pulse width on the scan gauge menu is it called something else?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 11:10 PM
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Sync is good (which I assume is cam/crank sync), but do you have FICM sync also?

Can you borrow a scan tool and check for codes? The scangauge is a poor code reader.

Fuel Injector Pulse Width (microseconds)
TXD: 07E0221410
RXF: 046205140610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000800010000
NAM: FPW

Camshaft & Crankshaft in sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3701
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC

FICM SYNC
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3601
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FSN (0=no or 1=yes)

There are no bubbles in the upper fuel filter bowl, but did you check how fast the bowl will fill KOEO?

Post Vreference voltage also

VREF
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046245110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006433330000
NAM: CVI

What is battery voltage when cranking? What year model truck is it?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2017 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bismic
Sync is good (which I assume is cam/crank sync), but do you have FICM sync also?

Can you borrow a scan tool and check for codes? The scangauge is a poor code reader.

Fuel Injector Pulse Width (microseconds)
TXD: 07E0221410
RXF: 046205140610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000800010000
NAM: FPW

Camshaft & Crankshaft in sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3701
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC

FICM SYNC
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3601
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: FSN (0=no or 1=yes)

There are no bubbles in the upper fuel filter bowl, but did you check how fast the bowl will fill KOEO?

Post Vreference voltage also

VREF
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046245110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006433330000
NAM: CVI

What is battery voltage when cranking? What year model truck is it?
All I have is the scanguage2
The sync is FICM SYNC
I did not drain the fuel bowl but will, and check rate of fill. Should it fill rt to the top?
Cranking voltage I''ll check again ,but was between 9-10 at Rt side battery
2003 F250 4X4 350k km(Complete engine replaced at 160k by Ford warranty.) Otherwise stock.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2017 | 11:44 AM
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You can watch a you tube video and learn to program the scan gauge for X-gauges... what Mark gave you the codes for. Program it so you can see them.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 11:29 AM
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Went out to work on updating Scangae with new PIDS, and it occurred to me that I had not checked the upper fuel reservoir with KOEO(which is the proper procedure?). So..I took off cap and filter and the bowl was empty. I thought "ok as soon as I turn the key Ill run back and time how long it takes to fill"
Well does not fill at all. checked it2X and still empty.
The electric pump below the drive runs for about 10 secs and stops and no fuel. Is there something in between the pump and the upper "bowl".
Any thoughts TIA
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 12:23 PM
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The regulator, that's about it.

Are you sure you are getting fuel out of the tank to the fuel pump?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 04:20 PM
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Un sure is there a pump in the tank to check?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 04:26 PM
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No, pumps on the rail.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
No, pumps on the rail.
Thanks ill disconnect and check
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 04:39 PM
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The foot valve in the fuel tank pick up tube can fail and prevent flow from the tank to the pump when tank level is on the low side.

If that were to happen on my truck, I think I would install a Beans fuel tank sump.
 
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