Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Speedometer bouncing around

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 11, 2017 | 07:14 PM
  #1  
Jtstein98's Avatar
Jtstein98
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Speedometer bouncing around

first off a little info on the truck it's a 1994 f150 with a 302 and a manual trans. So recently the speedometer has started bouncing around and has gotten worse to the point now where as soon as I start driving it doesn't read at all or wildly bounces all over the place no rhyme or reason.. It has a newer speedo cable and no other issues with the gauge cluster so I don't think it's that big no sure if related or not but around the same time the speedo problem started the ABS light came on on the dash.. I have yet to pull codes but will add those when I do just looking to get this fixed soon because it is my daily driver

thanks, Jake
 
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2017 | 07:54 PM
  #2  
Azryael's Avatar
Azryael
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 991
Likes: 6
From: San Antonio, Texas
When you replaced the cable, did you apply a small amount of white lithium grease or suitable alternative to the ends?

If not, give that a shot and report back!
 
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2017 | 09:33 PM
  #3  
88n94's Avatar
88n94
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,118
Likes: 149
From: South Dakota
I didn't think a 1994 had a speedometer cable.
 
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2017 | 09:43 PM
  #4  
Steve's Avatar
Steve
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 686
Likes: 80
If it does have a cable, the you gotta lube it. And when they do run dry, often the plastic drive gear gets worn, adding to the jiggle. They are cheap and available. Also make make sure the speedometer end is properly seated.

Funny though, as stated above, the '92 is about when Ford went to the electronic speedo. The VSS (sensor) on top of the differential can cause this as well if it fails. A bad VSS can also trigger the ABS light since it's part of that system too.
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 05:55 AM
  #5  
rla2005's Avatar
rla2005
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 20,783
Likes: 1,751
From: Kentucky
1992 and newer trucks have an electronic speedometer/odometer. There is no cable.
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 06:55 AM
  #6  
subford's Avatar
subford
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 23,666
Likes: 301
From: Easton,Ks
More than likely he has bad bearings in the rear end or junk stuck to the VSS or bad wiring under the truck.
The VSS may have lost its magnetism but unlikely.
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 08:56 AM
  #7  
Jtstein98's Avatar
Jtstein98
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Yes you guys are correct sorry I'm getting my trucks mixed up my brother we put a speedo cable in.. this one is electronic.. what is the VSS and how can I check it what am I looking for
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 08:59 AM
  #8  
Azryael's Avatar
Azryael
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 991
Likes: 6
From: San Antonio, Texas
OP mentioned having replaced the cable, which assuming he did the work himself, would have allowed him to verify that he has a mechanical cable.

I know my '96 is all by wire and that the only place it bounces is slightly between 55-60. I'll need to check and clean the sensor at some point.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 12:14 PM
  #9  
madpogue's Avatar
madpogue
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 8,476
Likes: 37
From: Madison, WI
VSS - vehicle speed sensor. Electromagnetic sensor in the diff, it basically "counts" the teeth on a ring attached to the diff ring gear called the tone ring. The PSOM (speedo module in the dash) counts those pulses and points the speedometer needle accordingly, and also sends the speed signal to the PCM. A bad VSS, or crud in the diff fluid or crud between the notches on the tone ring, can cause what you're seeing. If the diff fluid is old anyway, it would be worth removing the diff cover and draining it, this will give you a chance to inspect the tone ring. If it just needs cleaning up, it would save you the cost of a VSS.

Good thing you have a manual; on automatic trucks, that sensor also provides the speed signal used to determine when to shift the tranny. With that kind of malfunction, you'd be having nasty shifting issues, if......
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 02:51 PM
  #10  
subford's Avatar
subford
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 23,666
Likes: 301
From: Easton,Ks
Originally Posted by Jtstein98
Yes you guys are correct sorry I'm getting my trucks mixed up my brother we put a speedo cable in.. this one is electronic.. what is the VSS and how can I check it what am I looking for
The VSS itself very seldom goes bad but gets changed out a lot.
You have a bad signal on the VSS wires at the RABS module so yo know the problem is in the wires going from the RABS module to the rear end sensor, the VSS plug or has junk stuck to it or the tone wheel is opening the gap between itself and the VSS.

There is ways to test the signal but we already know it is bad so no point there. You can check the coil in the VSS with an ohm meter to see if it has open winding or shorted windings.



Here is a wiring diagram for a 1995 but a 1994 is the same:

/
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Meridian_Mike
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
14
Jan 18, 2019 02:19 PM
52 F1 Stocker
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
9
Oct 21, 2015 08:20 AM
1968bumpside
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
10
Mar 16, 2012 12:36 PM
r_reed
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
Aug 10, 2008 11:01 AM
Dustin_86
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
1
Nov 1, 2004 10:17 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:25 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE