In the standard xlt instrument cluster display can you display coolant,trans,oil temp, and oil pressure all at once in a list? This display is also the one that can be had on the xl as well as long as you get sync 3 correct?

Nathan

 

not on mine you cycle through and i have not seen an oil pressure reading other than the physical gauge and i have sync 3.

 

The only thing I can display is trans temp digitally. I posted a thread about this a while back, I am considering a Scan Gauge II like I had in my older truck just for this reason.

 

Trans temp and oil temp are on different screens. Haven't seen oil pressure other then the gauge.

 

The short answer is no. There are three different "productivity" screens offered on these 2017 Super Duty trucks: the 2.3" monochrome LCD display which is text and simple graphics only. Then there is the 4.2" color LCD display, and finally the 8" color LCD display.

Transmission temps can be displayed on all trucks. Oil temp can only be displayed on diesel trucks. Coolant temperature and oil pressure are "gauge-only."

The longer answer applies only to the trucks with the 8" screens (Lariat+). If the engine begins to overheat, apparently the actual coolant temp will appear over the coolant gauge in a readout. There is a modification in ForScan not proven to work yet that the actual value can be displayed above each of the 4 gauges...but apparently Ford trucks have an oil pressure switch that only reads "OK" or "Low." In this case no value could be displayed.

 

Nathan,

Here's one more chime-in. The "standard XLT" productivity display in the instrument cluster is the 4.2" version. The OM refers to this particular display as the "Type 2 Information Display"; see OM pages 111 and 115-120.

As you suggest, the 4.2" productivity display is an option on the XL. However, don't confuse this one with the 4.2" "center stack" display included in the SYNC option for the XL. It also appears that the SYNC 3 with the 8" center stack display is an option for the XL.

In "Display Mode", my XLT gasser can display tire pressure (individual for all four tires), digital speedometer (mph or kpm), engine information (engine hours and engine idle hours), and transmission temperature. I can cycle through these displays individually, but cannot show them all collectively. Additional parameters are provided for the diesel.

Here's a sample picture:



Other modes include Trip/Fuel, Towing, Off Road (even for the 4x2), and Settings.

HTH,
Jim / crewzer

 

Okay thanks guys. I will be switching to a ford in a few months. My current ram with the small instrument display will display all these but they do not have any analog gauges to go by so that is most likely why they put it in the digital display. I have an obdii Bluetooth link already from my old 05 ford. I may just use this and monitor the temps with an old ipod or something. Hey while I have your guys attention. What is the differences between the torqshift - g and the torqshift behind the 1 ton trucks. Is the g as heavy duty as the 6r140?

 

The Torqshift-G (aka the 6R100) is not quite as heavy duty as the 6R140 and the two transmissions are completely different architecture. The 6R100 is a heavy-duty version of the 6R80 found in the F-150 pickup truck...which is a licensed version of a German-made ZF transmission. The 6R100 transmission is *only* available in gas-powered F-250 trucks. The idea is that the gas-powered F-250 is the *least capable* of all Super Duty trucks, and that the heavier-duty 6R140 transmission is "too much transmission" for this truck. The 6R140 basically steals more horsepower and torque in order to turn the transmission, and it weighs more, but for no reason given the gas F-250's weight and towing capacity.

Before you start thinking the 6R100 is a bad choice, let me say that ZF is an excellent company and their transmissions are in some of the finest automobiles in the world, including the $400k Rolls-Royce Phantom. The 6R80 in the F-150 has proven to be an extremely durable, reliable, and very smooth transmission. It has also been proven for years behind the 420lb-ft EcoBoost engine, and even the 460lb-ft EcoBoost transmission in the Navigator. So, a heavier-duty version of the 6R80 will have no trouble in the F-250 gas engine with 430lb-ft. It should deliver slightly better acceleration and fuel economy when compared against a gas F-350 pickup with the heavier 6R140 transmission. The 6R100 will stand up to plowing and frequent heavy towing very well.

The 6R140 is a Ford-designed and built transmission benchmarked against the Allison 1000 transmission in the GM diesel trucks. There are a few differences internally between 6R140's used in gas vs diesel trucks, but they are essentially the same trans.

Ford transmission numbers are kind of like code. The first numeral means number of gears; the second letter means longitudinal or transverse installation, and the last set of numerals is the amount of torque the input shaft of the transmission can withstand, multiplied by 10. So, the 6R100 would mean "6 forward gears," "R" (rear drive - longitudinal installation), and 100*10 = 1000lb-ft input shaft capability. Keep in mind an unlocked torque convertor essentially doubles the engine torque at least in first gear. So the gas 6.2L engine, plus the torque converter, is essentially putting 860lb-ft on your input shaft.

By contrast, a Ford Taurus SHO with the 3.5L EcoBoost uses a 6F55 transmission: 6 forward gears, front-drive (transverse installation), and 550 lb-ft input shaft capability. That engine has been detuned to 350lb-ft of torque, which would exceed the transmission's capability with the torque converter...so torque is electronically managed in 1st gear...

 

Thank you for that info. I am leaning towards the f250. As we only pull a tt. I don't believe we will ever get a 5er and if we ever did it would not be a huge one either. I believe the 6r100 should live just fine pulling 9k about 7 or 8 times a year with an 8 hour trip mixed in those. It has to be just as good or better than the 66rfe in the ram.

 

Make sure you get the 4:30 gears if you get a gasser.

BIL has a 17 F250 6.2 w/ 4:30's and pulls a toy hauler. Had zero issues other than about 8-9mpg's towing.

 

Yes it will have 4.30 gears.