"Dumb F#*€s"... Sounds like a peach of a guy.

If Ford did use break in additives you can bet they'd be putting a warning in the manual about changing it out early...

And I doubt they'd have put this in there:
"Don't use any friction modifiers or special break-in oils during the first few thousand miles (kilometers) of operation, since these additives may prevent piston
ring seating."

Either your engine is prone to ticking, or it's not...

 

Normal for "some" PSD's to tick sounds like BS to me. If they all ticked fine but only some...

 

Not only some Powerstrokes, but some Duramaxs, some Nissans, some Isuzus, some Cummins...

INFORMATION

Bulletin No.: 02-06-01-022H

Date: August 18 20
Subject:
Information on Engine Ticking Noise

Models:
2001-2007 Chevrolet Silverado (Classic)
2003-2009 Chevrolet Kodiak C4500/C5500 Series
2006-2009 Chevrolet Express
2001-2007 GMC Sierra (Classic)
2003-2009 GMC TopKick C4500/C5500 Series
2006-2009 GMC Savana

with 6.6L DuramaTM) (VINs D, 1, 2 - RPOs LBZ, LB7, LLY)

Supercede:

This bulletin is being revised to add model years and remove RPO LMM. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-06-01-022G (Section 06 - Engine/Propulsion System).

Some of the above vehicles may exhibit a random ticking noise that is most audible on an engine with a coolant temperature of 70°C (158°F) or higher and from idle to approximately 1500 RPM. The noise usually is most noticeable at the rear of the drivers side front wheelwell. Customers may also comment about hearing a tick noise inside the vehicle at idle such as when sitting at a drive through window. All 6600 DuramaTM) diesel engines have this condition; however some are more audible than others. Enginebuild variation from engine to enginecontributes to differences in perceived volume. All DuramaTM) engines are manufactured to very close tolerances to meet the durability and reliability standards.

This noise is caused by the relationship of the engine cylinder block crankshaft journals bearing inserts and the oil film. This relationship may allow a vibration that resonates through the cylinder block and is heard as a metallic ticking noise. The noise could be described as an irregular ticking or clacking sound like random typing on a mechanical typewriter.

This condition has been present in produced for the last 20 or more years. The overall noise reduction in engines produced today makes this noise seem new when in fact it was masked by other noises in the past. Many manufacturers such as and Nissan report a similar condition in their diesel engines. Testing and engine teardowns with this condition reveal no condition that would affect reliability or durability of this engine.

Dealers should not attempt to compare any customer vehicles exhibiting this noise with other similar vehicles as the noise is different from vehicle to vehicle and this may lead to the incorrect conclusion that the vehicle has a condition. This noise is a normal operating characteristic of the engine. This noise has no short or long term effects on the engine. Do not attempt repairs for this noise.

 

FWIW- The OP stated his brother's truck had the tick from day-2. I doubt he changed the oil on day 2, but maybe he did. From all the information I've read (including the engine tick vs oil change forum poll) it seems completely random; Some people have the tick and didn't change their oil early, some don't that did change their oil early. Interesting topic none the less.

 

Now we are getting somewhere. You see this ^^^ my 2017 SD has this ticking and that is NOT the engine tick I'm talking about on my brothers truck.

So there are 2 different ticking issues, the one which I have which may be normal and the engine tick my brother has. This may be why Ford is saying the ticking is normal, when in fact we are talking about two different ticking issues.

I frequently hear the ticking noted above in my truck, most often in drive through with the window down, the ticking bounces off the building. This ticking sounds like a pump, it ticks more rapidly at first and slows and eventually stops. With the truck at full temp. The engine tick on my brothers truck completely different issue.

 

FWIW, there was a similar TSB on my 2009 5.4 F150 about a clatter heard at drive throughs from the cam phasers. It started around 60k on my truck and hasn't seemed to affect anything but my ears for the past 85k miles.

 

Coolidge, any audio or video of this problem?

I personally doubt the oil change theory as well. I've had three diesels and none have ticked abnormally.

When the engine is cold and ambient temps are cold (around 30F or less), the truck will start without running pilot injection. That creates the more old-school diesel "clatter." It is typically only anywhere from 30 seconds to a few minutes of actual driving before pilot injection begins operating and the engine sound smooths out. The colder the engine is, the longer before pilot injection starts. Basically, pilot injection staggers fuel pulses so the cylinder firing sounds more smooth and is quieter compared to one "big bang" pulse as in older diesels. But the cylinder needs to be warm to ensure proper combustion so the truck waits briefly before starting pilot injection.

I don't think that's what you are hearing in the case of your brother. That's why I'd love to hear a sample.

 

I had a 2011 and 2013 6.7. When I changed the oil myself, I pre filled the oil filters before installing. No tick. Some times I had it changed at my dealer, then I noticed a tick afterwards. Eventually it would go away. Coincidence? I'm not sure, but they just spin on the dry filter and let the engine run dry, while it briefly fills it.

 

What you have described here is the way mine is, more like a lifter clatter vs typewriter tick. But I'm not losing any sleep over it, its so nice compared to 20 yrs. of my 7.3.

 

I like to pre-fill my filters as well...but the service manual does not state you need to do this. I do it on practically every engine I own from lawn mowers to motorcycle to snowmobile to tractor to automobiles. I don't like hearing the dry lifter tick for a few seconds when I start up an engine after an oil change because to me, that equals engine wear...but many mechanics have assured me no harm is done.

 

Here's a video of the engine ticking just in from my brother

 

Just posted the vid. Luckily in my example we have two brand new SD's purchased only 1 day apart, both sitting in my drive way idling, same temp, fuel, his engine ticks mine doesn't.

 

Thanks for posting. In my opinion, it sounds like the "tick" is something external to the motor making physical contact with something. If you lightly rev the engine (say (1500RPM or so) does it go away? Diesel engines shake to some extent at low RPM and smooth out as RPM increases.

 

Not sure if it's the engine, but I hear a ticking sound when I'm out of the truck and it's doing a regen (I can smell the process) but it's totally quiet otherwise.

 

Just for some added data. My truck has 2700 miles and on original oil. Engine is so quiet, it could be a 6.2 gas. Not much of a diesel sound compared to my old 7.3.