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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 12:44 PM
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Weight limits

I have been asking this question to several groups and still no definitive answer. I am towing a 2015 Cedar Creek 5th wheel with a dry weight of 13,900 (they say you add about 800 lbs, of stuff) so can we go with 14,700 down the road? I have a 2014 F-250 with the 6.7 diesel and 3:55 rear end. It seems to pull the 5th wheel effortlessly and in discussion with many people I am told it will handle this load anytime, anywhere. We get 11.5-14 mpg on two lane highways and maybe 10.5 mpg on the interstates running at 65 mph. The RV rides level and the rear end on the truck does not drop much when it is hooked up. Now the question. Several others have told me that this is too much weight for this truck to tow. Before I try to pull the RV out west for a couple to three weeks I need some educated advice on whether to go ahead, or bite the bullet and find a DRW that somebody doesn't need and will trade for this nice F-250. Thanks in advance for any replies.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 01:02 PM
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http://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/

Chose 2014 scroll down and you have an exact answer.

looking real quick and not knowing your truck configuration somewhere around 15,900# of 5th wheel and 23.5k combined.

Weighing truck then truck and trailer is the best bet for certinty.
With what you have you should have no problem and you're already using it like it is with no complaints. The diesel will handle the mountains in the west with no problems.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 01:50 PM
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Go get the guide that scraprat linked too.
Your probably over your RAWR - in fact I'd guarantee it - now the fact that the F-250 and F-350 have identical axles makes that a little easier to swallow. 800lbs of "stuff" is conservative - I figure we have more like 1500lbs-2000lbs with water, though we fulltime in ours.

You'll read this in every "can my F-250/F-350 tow this" thread on this forum, and there are a TON OF THEM - Take it to the scales and find out your weights. The truck can tow more, its going to RAWR that your over, every time, on a F-250.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 02:54 PM
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And so what if it is over the pin weight? If the axle weight is OK as well as the tires - just keep on trucking. If it pulls and it stops fine...and by now you know it does there ain't no one gonna stop you and weight the rig!

BUT ! You really should go and weigh it - just so you know.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 03:48 PM
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for a rough estimate take the GVW of the trailer and figure that is how much you are going to weigh on any given day.


20% of that number should come close to your pin wt. Pin wt is the payload for the truck.


Rough estimate is you are probably sitting at about 3100 lbs on the rear axle right now.


Don't exceed the tire ratings or axle ratings and you should be fine.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 03:57 PM
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When you stated 800lbs. that weight has to include water, fuel, clothes, food , equipment and people. I doubt if you come under double that.
 
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Agree with Scott. You have a SRW 350 with 250 badges minus the single rear overload spring. If you have the camper package you have that too. If not, airbags will do the same. So, when you're looking to stay under GAWR and tire ratings, use the 350's 7k rating instead. Air your rear tires up to 80 PSI too. After that, tow it and enjoy as you have plenty of truck. I had essentially the same truck with my 2012. Pulled 16-20k 5th wheel over 20k miles in all conditions. Was the perfect vehicle for the job so I got another SRW for 2017.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mrgrayaz
Go get the guide that scraprat linked too.
Your probably over your RAWR - in fact I'd guarantee it - now the fact that the F-250 and F-350 have identical axles makes that a little easier to swallow. 800lbs of "stuff" is conservative - I figure we have more like 1500lbs-2000lbs with water, though we fulltime in ours.

You'll read this in every "can my F-250/F-350 tow this" thread on this forum, and there are a TON OF THEM - Take it to the scales and find out your weights. The truck can tow more, its going to RAWR that your over, every time, on a F-250.
As mrgrayaz says, 800 lbs. is WAY conservative (and who are "they?"). When dealing with fifth wheel RV, forget empty weights an anything either a truck or RV salesperson tells you. Use the GVWR of the fiver and calculate 23% of that for a loaded pin weight. As with mrgrayaz, we are full-timers and have more than 2,000 lbs. of stuff on board - and more than 50% of that goes on the pin. With an RV GVWR of 13,990 and a pin weight of 3,100 lbs., we were over our truck's rear axle rating and 100 lbs. under the tire ratings. For peace of mind and safety, we traded for a 1-ton DRW. Any of the modern 3/4 ton diesels (I don't care what brand) will pull a house off its foundation... you just can't put the weight of the house on the rear axle of the truck.

Rob
 
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His rear axle is rated to handle the trailer in question Rob at 7k. (This is derated too as outside the truck the Sterling 10.5 is rated to 9750#.) His tires, if 18's, have a rating of 7280# for the pair. If 20's, 7500#.
 
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