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Old Mar 15, 2017 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Colorado Horseman
If the OEM UVCH was as great as what some here think it would outlast valves and piston rings.

Face it, the design of our injectors and the electronic controls (specifically the UVCH) are entirely inadequate to last half the expected 50% life of the engine! "Engineers" decided that these parts are "routine maintenance items" and that most buyers would trade in @ 100k.

Makes sense to the marketing idiots, but defeats the reason most of us went with the 7.3.

Ford FAIL - as has been every diesel they have produced since (most with more significant shortcomings)! God forbid Navistar or Ford apply the criteria that made the old DT466 medium duty diesel dependable over a couple million miles to a consumer PU that cost nearly as much.

Still, the 7.3 in spite of her faults, is the most suited to my uses, and I intend to run her till she goes **** up!
Would these things be a Ford failure or an IH failure? I'm not sticking up for Ford but I would think that IH would be responsible for most of the engine parts.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2017 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
Would these things be a Ford failure or an IH failure? I'm not sticking up for Ford but I would think that IH would be responsible for most of the engine parts.
Actually, the blame should fall primarily on the EPA forcing manufacturers to continually redesign their engines sacrificing durability and longevity on the altar of arbitrary and increasingly restrictive mandates.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2017 | 10:40 AM
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Looking to replace glow plugs, and some other maintenance soon. Been following this and other threads about UVCH preference and quality. My UVCH is original with quarters added @ 2009. Runs great, but have a couple glow plugs out, and got some funny readings through the 42 pin. At this point I guess I would default to OEM, but still have some time.

Hopefully others with real world experience will chime in.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2017 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Colorado Horseman
Actually, the blame should fall primarily on the EPA forcing manufacturers to continually redesign their engines sacrificing durability and longevity on the altar of arbitrary and increasingly restrictive mandates.
Actually, that's incorrect. You can blame the EPA for all the stuff starting with the 6.0 since that's when the emissions kicked in, but the UVCH issues on our 7.3 are not related.

The OBS 7.3 had issues with their UVCH, which had two plugs per head. The pins would end up getting burned on those connectors. The single connector per side was the upgrade to the harness, which happened to come loose at times.

Nothing against Pete, but sometimes what works on paper and in the lab for the engineers doesn't quite work as well in the real world. The upgraded harnesses available for these trucks are designed to help prevent the connection from coming loose. The OBS guys sometimes upgrade to the Super Duty harness to avoid the burnt pins in their connections.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2017 | 08:39 AM
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I got new harnesses from riff raff, they havnt came in yet.
but to keep things moving around the yard, ive put this thing back together,
thoroughly cleaned the harness and gasket and super glued them together.
truck runs great now, except for the fact that the CEL came back on late lastnight, I havnt hooked the scanner to it yet
 
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Old Mar 16, 2017 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Colorado Horseman
If the OEM UVCH was as great as what some here think it would outlast valves and piston rings.

Face it, the design of our injectors and the electronic controls (specifically the UVCH) are entirely inadequate to last half the expected 50% life of the engine! "Engineers" decided that these parts are "routine maintenance items" and that most buyers would trade in @ 100k.

Makes sense to the marketing idiots, but defeats the reason most of us went with the 7.3.

Ford FAIL - as has been every diesel they have produced since (most with more significant shortcomings)! God forbid Navistar or Ford apply the criteria that made the old DT466 medium duty diesel dependable over a couple million miles to a consumer PU that cost nearly as much.

Still, the 7.3 in spite of her faults, is the most suited to my uses, and I intend to run her till she goes **** up!
This is why I believe Ford shot themselves in the foot offering the 7.3l in there trucks. Why would I want to buy a diesel that doesn't have the ability to last? The reason I went diesel was for longevity. Spending $60-80k on a truck thats meant to be used is something I can't swallow. I plan on running mine until it won't go anymore. Having an engine that has the capability of lasting 1,000,000 miles or more and the ability to work on it makes me not want to buy a newer diesel. Sure, more power stock would be nice, but with all there issues, emission junk, cost, and lack of longevity steers me far away from them. Plus I can get the same mpg or better with my 15 year old truck.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2017 | 11:58 AM
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i get 6-9 mpg more in my ole IDI than i do in my PSD.
and with 120 cc sticks on a stock tune, the power is comparable. but the SD is a lot more comfortable
 
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