Has anyone put together a spreadsheet with weights for an F250 to help determine the final payload of an ordered vehicle? The dealer doesn't know so I tried chat. That conversation was highly frustrating and illuminating. After calling marketing, I was told that asking about Net Cargo Capacity (payload) is highly unusual beyond what their max payload capability is. Apparently nobody asks about the weights of accessories. Marketing escalated my request with chat such that in 7-10 business days, someone will get back to me on what the payload NCC might be for a fully loaded KR. I placed my order and can still cancel it which I'm thinking is a good idea.

Feedback on this site has been that the number can be from 1700 to 2100 lbs and that's a wide range which would make the F250 KR the wrong vehicle. Since it isn't possible that I'm the first to need to know this for towing requirements, I'm hoping someone here has done a calculator like I saw done for an F150 in the 2016 model year.

Or - am I just nuts and I should let this go? Trying hard to stay with Ford but they are telling me that I'm unusual and their marketing people are highly frustrated with me claiming that people just don't ask this question and there is nowhere within Ford to find this but they will try.

 

I just went through a similar dilemma when I found out that the F250 that I wanted was only rated at 200lbs more than my current F150. I ended up changing my order to a F350 to be safe.

I pick it up on Saturday

 

If you use the build and price on the Ford, it gives you the payload rating for your build.

Also, if you're getting a diesel, then it just makes sense to get the 350 unless you have a good reason (excessive registration or taxes).

I think you you will be in the 2300 range.

 

A Diesel Crew Cab, 6.7L, 4x4, short bed should have a payload close to 2600 lbs according to the Ford website. Given specific options it probably will be less, but if you are worried about a few hundred pounds of payload, you should probably bump up to an F350.

 

Not Directly related to a KR but a loaded Lariat FX4 (no 5th wheel/gooseneck prep nor Max Tow). My combined weight of Occupants, cargo and tongue weight allowable is 2165 lb, GVWR is 10000, hitch 15000/1500 on the tongue. Tires are Rims – 20x8.0J --- Tires --- LT275/65R20E 126/123R – at 65PSI

 

There are a couple threads from a while back where people posted actual door stickers to see as-built payload. Its odd that Ford thinks its odd you asked that question...


I'm guessing by the range you posted, you ordered a 6.7. I would absolutely change it to a 350 with the diesel. Unless for registration purposes you need a 9,900 GVWR sticker, a 3/4 ton diesel just doesn't seem to make sense because you have that massive HP and torque with relatively low payload.


I ordered a 6.2L F-250 and the dealer gave me a "are you sure your sure you don't want to go F-350 for $700?" And I would have except I gambled that the different transmission in the 250 gasser and slightly lower spring ratings were worth getting for ride and performance. Don't know if that will prove out, but with 3,000 # of payload even on the 250 with the gas engine, I figured it was worth a shot.


With the diesel, I think you have a lot to gain by going to the 350.

 

I have found that the payload rating in the build and price tool is not accurate.

I've configured several F250s; the payload stays at 2660 lbs regardless of how you option it - adding ultimate package, HD towing, or others does not change the payload.

I found a unit on the lot similarly equipped to what I had configured in the tool - F250 lariat CC 4x4 ultimate, and the payload sticker was around 2240 lbs.

 

I have seen stickers under 2,000 lbs on F250 6.7 King ranch on a lot.

 

If you're paying that much money for the diesel option and you require a decent payload, get the 350. With that said, I'm happy with the 3626 lbs payload on my F250.

 

My last 2016 KR 250 6.7L was right at 2,000lbs. I wasn't terribly impressed.

 

The 2017 Super Duty spec book contains the base (XL) vehicle weights (front axle, rear axle, curb):

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...ps_-_Specs.pdf

We need to find the 2017 version of this manual:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...load_SB_v5.pdf

HTH,
Jim / crewzer

 

If there is anyone from Ford monitoring this forum, the comments here and on other threads make it pretty clear that being able to figure out the payload is a genuine concern and without the table of weights, its a difficult if not impossible thing to do.

I was avoiding the 350 because I only need around 2100 for my RV and I was concerned that the 350 would ride so rough it wouldn't be worth the extra payload capability.

 

Easy way to check is to go weigh the truck on some commercial scales to find out exactly what your particular truck can handle without going over the "legal" limit. For instance, say you have a ccsb with the diesel, and the total weight of the truck is 7300 lbs. And your rear axle weighs 3000 lbs. The F250's GVWR is 10000 lbs, while the rear axle GAWR is 6340. according to the results of the weigh in, you can carry 3340 lbs on the rear axle, but only "legally" carry 2700 lbs due to the GVWR.

 

The best way I found to calculate this is to compare trucks payload stickers. I did this and was able to estimate my F250 build should be right at 3000. I'm picking up my new truck today...Platinum F250 6.2L FX4. Stickers shows 2934. Ford.com and chat is a waste of time.

I needed at least 2500 but wanted to be in the 3000 range. If I'd ordered a 6.7L, I'd have to get a 350 to get that.

 

Comparing payload stickers doesn't work because I'm trying to build one. It will be the same problem for those doing this in 2018 so this problem doesn't go away although I imagine a new thread will pop-up down the road.

The calls to marketing and chat resulted in advice that you shouldn't try to estimate the truck weight because it's very complicated so they sent me a link to a new truck in transit 1,000 miles away that looks close to my build.
I will say this: while they know absolutely nothing about Super Duty's they are responsive.

That gave me an idea and I was able to put the information from the dealers option weights sheet into a quick spreadsheet. Been running some tests using information from the KR payload thread but I've gotten to within 30# on most builds. With a few more tests, I'll be able to decide if it's accurate but as of now, my build is at 2110# and the 20" rims account for 89# of the loss from 2660#.

Or ... I've been reading the F250 vs 2500HD threads and it might be simpler to skip this whole SD idea and just get a Duramax Denali and call it a day.
Never have I had this much headwind trying to buy something where the key ingredient, the payload, is a secret.