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Old Mar 10, 2017 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
the ramp is a measurement tool of a vehicles ability to articulate, nothing more and nothing less. the fact that a vehicle has a locker tells us nothing about how well it would do on the ramp. very few vehicles can hang with the wagon on the ramp, rubicon is probly the only one I can think of right off that would likely beat the wagon. Toyota trd do pretty well, raptor isn't bad but falls a bit short. the f250 probly wouldn't do well, atleast not against a 500+ ramp score, it just has to many things that would prevent good articulation. well enough about that


we just need to remember where the vehicles comfort zone is before we talk crap. rubicon wont haul crap but its hard to beat it for crawling and low speed offroad situations in general. trd wont haul much weight either but its pretty good off road, crawling and high speed im sure it would do reasonably good. wagon wouldn't do high speed stuff well but it could handle a lot of abuse in low speed stuff, because of its springs it cant haul heavy loads. f250 can haul plenty of weight but its high speed ability would be horrible, as would its crawling, mostly because its limited articulation. raptor would excel in high speed but has limited hauling capability, crawling would likely be on par with the Toyotas, which isn't to bad
we already know these things, I don't think troverman was talking crap, yeah it won't flex as well but his point was well made that the rear locker would propel it forward.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2017 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by troverman
FYI, I never "cried" at the Ford loss during the IKE test. I stated I was disappointed and unsure how the Ford could lose to the RAM at 22k but win at 30k. It seems a fair question. Enough people have commented and we believe we have the answer.
Just so I know, what was the answer? I kinda got lost in the math. Was it because the chevy had perfect gearing set up to tow its max weight and if you raised or lowered the weight causing trucks to change gears, we would have different results? Or was it something else?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2017 | 07:01 PM
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Before buying the SD, I test drove the Ram 6.4 and 6.7. Afterwards I didn't consider the 6.4 as a choice. It just didn't have the spunk needed for that heavy truck for me.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2017 | 11:03 PM
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if your accustomed to deisels ,i could see how a fullsize truck with gas engine wouldnt be your cup of tea. the 6.4 ccsb is 7200lb with no passengers. im sure the 6.2 is real similar in weight and performance. for years i got by with a tacoma but it just didnt have the interior space i wanted. really thought about getting into a rubicon but then i would need a trailer for my dirtbikes and space to park the trailer. ended up with full size gas pickup and i have no regrets. everyone has their own priorities
 
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Old Mar 11, 2017 | 10:13 AM
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Just so I know, what was the answer? I kinda got lost in the math. Was it because the chevy had perfect gearing set up to tow its max weight and if you raised or lowered the weight causing trucks to change gears, we would have different results? Or was it something else?
You got it. Perfect gearing for max load but theoretically would have lost at a different speed or load.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2017 | 10:15 AM
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we already know these things, I don't think troverman was talking crap, yeah it won't flex as well but his point was well made that the rear locker would propel it forward.
Thanks, I wasn't trying to be an idiot. The old generation with the open c frame flexed like crazy.
 
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