Well lookie who won!
Not bad!

 

Cool...

 

Wow, that PowerWagon is a total slug. I guess the results are about as expected...

 

Physics, schmisics. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. Winning is better!

 

lets stir the pot

those 6.4's are neutered in the trucks, drag raced my buddies that weighs in at 8000 lbs and same tires as me and we were dead even. His is tuned, those things are crippled by torque management


very nice comparison video, man that dodge was slow

 

This falls right in the Ram's strategy though. They're going to say they don't care about stupid drag races (and frankly, no one should) but rather that their trucks are built to tow heavy and do hard work. I still would have rather seen Ford win the IKE climb. This just plays perfectly into that narrative.

 

Win the IKE towing 30,000lbs would be far better than winning at 22,500!!!

 

The 6.4L trucks are not crippled by torque management...the 6.4L probably doesn't have enough power to even turn the tires in these HD trucks. Basically, the 6.4L cannot sustain high revs for a long time, because it is not a truck motor. It is a motor designed for the Challenger. The truck software will force the engine to run at a lower RPM, as we saw on the IKE test of a 2500HD with the 6.4L engine. The 5.7L sounds better and performs basically as well.

 

its a different motor than the challenger motor. Very few parts carry over. It's definitely a truck motor.

 

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This is for the rest of my 10 characters.

 

i have to respectfully disagree on the torque management, disable that and mds the 6.4 comes alive, i have experience towing heavy and empty.

 

of course its a slug. weighs nearly as much as the f250 deisel but with only half the torq. i suspect you have no problem accepting a drag race win against a slug but cry your eyes out and make excuses when your truck didnt win the ike against other equally equiped trucks. for its intended purpose , theres no better than a wagon. try this with your power stroke. good day sir

 

We Ford guys also have a truck like that, the raptor. Except the raptor slaughters the power wagon in fast driving off road, and is also a good crawler.

 

The RTI test used to be a great indicator of how off-road capable a vehicle is. With the advent of factory lockers, it is less important. A Super Duty would have no trouble crawling up that ramp, so long as the rear locker was engaged.

FYI, I never "cried" at the Ford loss during the IKE test. I stated I was disappointed and unsure how the Ford could lose to the RAM at 22k but win at 30k. It seems a fair question. Enough people have commented and we believe we have the answer.

As for the PW, yes...it is an excellent off-road performer...so long as you have the room to maneuver it. Folks that are looking for the ultimate off-road vehicle are never going to buy the PW because it is simply too big and heavy...same goes for the Raptor. I think they'd select a Wrangler Rubicon, or even a Tacoma TRD Pro if they needed a truck.

 

the ramp is a measurement tool of a vehicles ability to articulate, nothing more and nothing less. the fact that a vehicle has a locker tells us nothing about how well it would do on the ramp. very few vehicles can hang with the wagon on the ramp, rubicon is probly the only one I can think of right off that would likely beat the wagon. Toyota trd do pretty well, raptor isn't bad but falls a bit short. the f250 probly wouldn't do well, atleast not against a 500+ ramp score, it just has to many things that would prevent good articulation. well enough about that


we just need to remember where the vehicles comfort zone is before we talk crap. rubicon wont haul crap but its hard to beat it for crawling and low speed offroad situations in general. trd wont haul much weight either but its pretty good off road, crawling and high speed im sure it would do reasonably good. wagon wouldn't do high speed stuff well but it could handle a lot of abuse in low speed stuff, because of its springs it cant haul heavy loads. f250 can haul plenty of weight but its high speed ability would be horrible, as would its crawling, mostly because its limited articulation. raptor would excel in high speed but has limited hauling capability, crawling would likely be on par with the Toyotas, which isn't to bad