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hi I have a 06 f350 superduty with a 6.0 I have had injector problems before with the motor even hydro locking no start this is the problem my truck started blowing white smoke with a strong diesel smell everyone said it was oil cooler but I took it to a ford garage the guy said I had 2 injectors hung open and wasn't hydro locking and suggested to put all 8 in so I did 3400.00
not I went to pick it up had no power at all turbo was not kicking in so I took it right back to them they checked it out said turbo was sticking had to clean it it would take 6 hrs. said the fuel In the motor caused it it was working fine when I took it to them now they say maybe a new turbo are they giving me the run around or is this possible
not I went to pick it up had no power at all turbo was not kicking in so I took it right back to them they checked it out said turbo was sticking had to clean it it would take 6 hrs. said the fuel In the motor caused it it was working fine when I took it to them now they say maybe a new turbo are they giving me the run around or is this possible
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Sounds like you had the typical throw parts at it tech. Unfortunately techs that actually understand how these engines operate is rare.
Before you spend another dime at the stealership, get yourself a Bluetooth obd2 adapter & either TorquePro or Forscan on your phone. It'll cost about $30. Then head to the 6.0 section of the forum & start reading. Tons of information there that will save you alot of money by not throwing parts at the truck that don't address the issue.
Before you spend another dime at the stealership, get yourself a Bluetooth obd2 adapter & either TorquePro or Forscan on your phone. It'll cost about $30. Then head to the 6.0 section of the forum & start reading. Tons of information there that will save you alot of money by not throwing parts at the truck that don't address the issue.
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did they take the turbo out for any reason at all?
Did they forget to plug something back in? VGT solenoid?
The white smoke could of been from an injector issue, is it still smoking white? Its not uncommon for shops to recommend all injectors when a couple go bad
Did they forget to plug something back in? VGT solenoid?
The white smoke could of been from an injector issue, is it still smoking white? Its not uncommon for shops to recommend all injectors when a couple go bad
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Did they change the oil when they did the work? If not, do you check the level and the condition of the oil regularly? A gain in oil level can be just as bad as a dropping one. The garage seems to be indicating that you got fuel into the oil to the extent it thinned out the oil and the turbo bearings may have been damaged. It can happen, but if they saw excessive fuel dilution of the oil, they should have checked out the turbo wheel movement then. If this is their concern, I am sure they changed the oil, but verify it.
Did the engine ever get overheated?
By Ford garage, do you mean a dealership? I assume so, but just wanted to confirm (mainly to determine if the injectors installed were OEM ones).
As mentioned above, we can't help much without data and information. Get the scan tool and then we need to check the zero on the MAP, EBP, and Baro sensors (and check for codes).
Also as mentioned above, check to see if the VGT solenoid is plugged in, but with it unplugged you probably would see black smoke. Also check the MAP sensor hose (is it connected and is it free of cracking), and check the EBP sensor connector.
Did the engine ever get overheated?
By Ford garage, do you mean a dealership? I assume so, but just wanted to confirm (mainly to determine if the injectors installed were OEM ones).
As mentioned above, we can't help much without data and information. Get the scan tool and then we need to check the zero on the MAP, EBP, and Baro sensors (and check for codes).
Also as mentioned above, check to see if the VGT solenoid is plugged in, but with it unplugged you probably would see black smoke. Also check the MAP sensor hose (is it connected and is it free of cracking), and check the EBP sensor connector.
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did they take the turbo out for any reason at all?
Did they forget to plug something back in? VGT solenoid?
The white smoke could of been from an injector issue, is it still smoking white? Its not uncommon for shops to recommend all injectors when a couple go bad
Did they forget to plug something back in? VGT solenoid?
The white smoke could of been from an injector issue, is it still smoking white? Its not uncommon for shops to recommend all injectors when a couple go bad
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I'd recommend finding another dealership before they recommend a new engine next LoL. Those idiots should've pulled out the glow plugs & cranked it to rid the cylinders of fuel. Rookie techs!
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They ran it for an hour "to get rid of the fuel"........never heard that one before.
Did you pay with a credit card by chance cefloyd?
Long story short you are the victim of a tech/service manager that has no business with a wrench.
When you say 8 new tubes, they installed new injector bore cups as well?
Did you pay with a credit card by chance cefloyd?
Long story short you are the victim of a tech/service manager that has no business with a wrench.
When you say 8 new tubes, they installed new injector bore cups as well?
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Just something quick and easy to check if the truck is still together. Verify on the passenger side of the engine back near the heater box that the black rubber hose is coming from the intake manifold and going to the little box on the bracket at the top of the heater box (MAP sensor) and the hard grey plastic line is connected to a valve in the heater hose or on the dummy nipple on the heater box (it depends on you cab style as to which one it goes to). I have seen these hoses mixed up different ways, it's a common mistake for mechanics not familiar with the engine and will make the truck run as you described.
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Did they change the oil when they did the work? If not, do you check the level and the condition of the oil regularly? A gain in oil level can be just as bad as a dropping one. The garage seems to be indicating that you got fuel into the oil to the extent it thinned out the oil and the turbo bearings may have been damaged. It can happen, but if they saw excessive fuel dilution of the oil, they should have checked out the turbo wheel movement then. If this is their concern, I am sure they changed the oil, but verify it.
Did the engine ever get overheated?
By Ford garage, do you mean a dealership? I assume so, but just wanted to confirm (mainly to determine if the injectors installed were OEM ones).
As mentioned above, we can't help much without data and information. Get the scan tool and then we need to check the zero on the MAP, EBP, and Baro sensors (and check for codes).
Also as mentioned above, check to see if the VGT solenoid is plugged in, but with it unplugged you probably would see black smoke. Also check the MAP sensor hose (is it connected and is it free of cracking), and check the EBP sensor connector.
Did the engine ever get overheated?
By Ford garage, do you mean a dealership? I assume so, but just wanted to confirm (mainly to determine if the injectors installed were OEM ones).
As mentioned above, we can't help much without data and information. Get the scan tool and then we need to check the zero on the MAP, EBP, and Baro sensors (and check for codes).
Also as mentioned above, check to see if the VGT solenoid is plugged in, but with it unplugged you probably would see black smoke. Also check the MAP sensor hose (is it connected and is it free of cracking), and check the EBP sensor connector.
In case you missed it. If you don't know how to check these things, then let us know. In the meantime, you can look in the Tech Folder or search the site. The "6.0L bible" is a good place to start learning.
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