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Old Nov 10, 2017 | 11:05 PM
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Looks like this is a great solution for getting the oil out of the filter cleanly without spilling it everywhere:

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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 05:00 AM
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I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to pass this on:

I've long worried about a Fumoto valve opening and spilling my oil. They are made in Japan, and I just don't trust them. I found the EZ Drain, which is a Fumoto knock-off. Made in China, so forget that. And forget the Harbor Freight knock-off too. Probably the same Chinese junk.

Then I found No-Spill Systems. https://www.nospillsystems.com/

Made is USA and Canada, with a full size port for fast draining. Brass and bronze with a threaded cover and an o-ring for safety. This is the real deal that's used on 18-wheelers and commercial applications.

Check it out. Use it on my explorer and expedition and haven't looked back since. I don't have to deal with a lawn sprinkler of oil when I pull the plug and I sleep well at night knowing I'm not trusting some Chinese pot metal valve sticking down from my oil pan.

Eddie in New York
So, while the biggest concern on the Fumoto, is some type of failure lifting the lever out of the detent, against the spring, then rotating the lever (Which they also sell a safety clip to help prevent), this design has just a single spring as the failure point. I get the whole road debris knocking the lever, but the same could be said about this design, backing over brush, and spearing the plunger in that device.

As for where its made, I agree there is a lot of cheap garbage that comes out of China, but as far as the quality of products from Japan, its not the 1950's anymore, and anyone old enough to remember the cars built in the late 70's and 80's will understand....
 
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 05:09 AM
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There is a lever clip available for the Fujimoto if you're worried about the lever being snagged open.


 
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by xxxsherpa
How much are they?
It was somewhere close to $70 with shipping. On my Dodge, I just drain the oil straight into an old 5 gallon gas jug for easy disposal at the local auto parts store. Also, someone mentioned a stick pushing the valve in. With these units, that's impossible because they come with a protective cover that screws on and stays on. With the compact and small bottom version they are super low profile, no big valve sticking out, no plastic clip, just pure effectiveness. And yes, you can just unscrew the hose a bit to stop the drain flow if you wish.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2017 | 07:30 PM
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Did my first OC today at 2760 miles. Installed the nospill system. Really looks well made and love how it seals up with the threaded dust cap. Had to use a 7/8 socket with 20 ft/lbs torque to install. Drain fitting and hose just screws on when it's OC time. Drain right into your container of choice. As others said, you can just back off the screw fitting to pause /stop the oil flow to switch containers or whatever.

Aside: Waiting for 13 qts of oil to drain out does take a bit. Good thing I had the football games on in the garage. Center punching the filter was a good tip. Didn't make any mess at all by dropping the filter into the oil LOL.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2017 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxf250
Did my first OC today at 2760 miles. Installed the nospill system. Really looks well made and love how it seals up with the threaded dust cap. Had to use a 7/8 socket with 20 ft/lbs torque to install. Drain fitting and hose just screws on when it's OC time. Drain right into your container of choice. As others said, you can just back off the screw fitting to pause /stop the oil flow to switch containers or whatever.

Aside: Waiting for 13 qts of oil to drain out does take a bit. Good thing I had the football games on in the garage. Center punching the filter was a good tip. Didn't make any mess at all by dropping the filter into the oil LOL.
Is there any chance that the threaded dust cap could come loose and fall off?
 
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Old Nov 26, 2017 | 07:23 AM
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Is there any chance that the threaded dust cap could come loose and fall off?
No chance what so ever, as long as you tighten it. There’s an o ring inside that seals it and keeps it under tension. This drain plug is super low profile. If you purchase it, I guarantee you’ll be glad you did.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2017 | 07:36 AM
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Wouldn't you do the same here, but just unscrew the piece enough to stop the flow, but not remove completely?
Sure, but how much oil gets by WHILE you're unscrewing the fitting?
 
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Old Nov 26, 2017 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Trustee
I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to pass this on:

I've long worried about a Fumoto valve opening and spilling my oil. They are made in Japan, and I just don't trust them. I found the EZ Drain, which is a Fumoto knock-off. Made in China, so forget that. And forget the Harbor Freight knock-off too. Probably the same Chinese junk.

Then I found No-Spill Systems.

regarding your concerns w/ the fumoto valve opening...it never happens!
in over 30 years of using the fomoto valve (on no less than 5 different vehicles), i never had a false opening - and i NEVER ran the safety clip on any of them....even our class 8 freight liner columbia motor coach.

on our trucks the drain plug is at the back of the pan (not on the bottom) - so even then the back of the pan and the valve are protected.

I tired that "no-spill system" before - and it was a PIA to fine the adapter/hose...good luck if you ever miss place that thing.

as for made in America - while I'm PRO buy American, this is a GLOBAL economy.....even HARLEY has been using Japanese carburetors for more than 25 years...because it was better than they could SOURCE from anyone else, it provided more PROFIT MARGIN for HD - and above all it was a good product, reliable and did the job.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2017 | 08:53 AM
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regarding your concerns w/ the fumoto valve opening...it never happens!
in over 30 years of using the fomoto valve (on no less than 5 different vehicles), i never had a false opening - and i NEVER ran the safety clip on any of them....even our class 8 freight liner columbia motor coach.

on our trucks the drain plug is at the back of the pan (not on the bottom) - so even then the back of the pan and the valve are protected.

I tired that "no-spill system" before - and it was a PIA to fine the adapter/hose...good luck if you ever miss place that thing.

as for made in America - while I'm PRO buy American, this is a GLOBAL economy.....even HARLEY has been using Japanese carburetors for more than 25 years...because it was better than they could SOURCE from anyone else, it provided more PROFIT MARGIN for HD - and above all it was a good product, reliable and did the job.
I know you want to defend what you have purchased. It's only natural. For me, the drain plug is an opening to a huge artery in your truck's lifeline. Personally, I don't want to take a chance on this simple but very important component on my truck. I've had the no spill on my Dodge for 13 years now and have never lost the drain hose. I know you have never had a failure but I had a long talk with a guy from No spill. He has plenty of stories of the Fumoto drain system failing and destroying engines in domestic vehicles and even heavy equipment. With a choice between the two, I can't even imagine purchasing the Fumoto. I don't drive my Super Duty much so it'll be a while before I get to install my No Spill.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2017 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CO Wapiti
I know you want to defend what you have purchased. It's only natural.
Of course you will do the same.
mine is presented from a position of actual use of BOTH solutions.

I make no money from either solution and derive no satisfaction from any choice anyone else makes.
My position is a matter of collaboration so folks can make their own decision and learn from my own 1st hand experiences.

While both solutions are reasonable, keeping up with a special (small) release tool / hose (or remembering to carry it with me when traveling) is undesirable and negates the "flexibility" and desirability of an easy, clean, no tools required solution imo....

With the EZ Oil Drain Valve or the FoMoto i can go to any quick lube and never worry about getting my "release" tool or hose back for my next oil change.



Originally Posted by CO Wapiti
I had a long talk with a guy from No spill.He has plenty of stories of the Fumoto drain system failing and destroying engines in domestic vehicles and even heavy equipment.
OF COURSE "HE" does...he's selling you a competitive product.

I challenge anyone to share their 1st hand experience where a Fomoto (EZ Oil Drain) valve opened by accident. IT would seem that on this forum alone there are enough users of Fomoto (and EZ Oil Drain) valves that we would have someone step forward...broaden that across several additional forums (for trucks alone) - and again you'd think someone would have come forward....but thats not the case.

The Fomoto & EZ Oil Drain valves both have a built in safety - you must PRESS the (spring loaded) lever beyond the safety/cut out and THEN MOVE the lever to open it....its as unlikely that this will occur as it is that your No-Spill will vibrate or loosen on its threads or the plunger/stop will stick open.

if the press and turn of the Fomoto lever worry someone - they can add a safety clip that prevents BOTH of those actions.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2017 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Texmudder
Instead of using a Fumoto, per the recommendation of people here I went with this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thread size : 14mm-1.5
Fake Fumoto ...
 
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Old Nov 27, 2017 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
I would have to call in Red Adair to cap it off. But in his case it would be his ghost.
You must be (a) older and (b) from the south. Not many folks know who Red Adair was ...
 
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Old Nov 27, 2017 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl4Cat
Actually, he's not joking. This has been done by a few guys with success. I've never heard of a failure but perhaps those guys are still cleaning up....
Been doing this on two GM Vortec V8 305's for 15 years. Of course, they are in my BOAT and the 12V pump is mounted to a 5 gallon bucket with a long hose having a garden hose end that screws on to the top of the dipstick tubes, but ... yea ... works like a charm on those!
 
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Old Nov 27, 2017 | 03:45 PM
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Anyone who thinks that just because something is manufactured in Japan it *must* be inferior to something made in the USA is living a dream world.

Sure, there is plenty of crap coming out of Asia and, sure, there's some good stuff made here in America, but let me tell you ... there is just as much garbage coming out of American manufacturers as there is Japanese manufacturers AND there's just as much QUALITY product coming out of both.

Fumoto has been making this value for over 40 years, so don't tell me people kept buying it for 40 years while simultaneously overlooking that it was a piece of junk. C'mon, man, enough of the 'Murica crap.

And for the record: I don't have ANY of these valves on my truck yet.
 
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