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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 11:22 AM
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I just bought a 1990 7.3 idi with 439,000 miles on it. Everything is original. Just recently lost reverse. All other gears work fine. Clutch is still very strong. Where do I start?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 12:02 PM
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Usually on a manual gear box there are no synchro`s for reverse,
so my guess is you have a broken Shift Fork.




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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 12:29 PM
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Thank you. I'm sort of lost when it comes to the mechanics of the whole process. But, I am doing my best to learn. I appreciate the advice very much!!
 
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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 02:03 PM
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The ZF5 does indeed have reverse syncro's and they are a weak point of the transmission. Time for a rebuild.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 06:20 PM
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agreed. at 500k, that ZF has seen better days.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevy_Eater
The ZF5 does indeed have reverse syncro's and they are a weak point of the transmission. Time for a rebuild.
indeed they do have syncros, but if you come to a complete stop and put it in a gear to stop the tranny and then try reverse it will tell you weather it's the syncro.

normally on a zf5 a bad reverse slider and or gear causes the issue mentioned above. If it's the gear they're quite pricey. It's the same gear as 5th so if you can find a scrap 2wd tranny or even 4wd you can normally salvage what you need.

one guy even swapped 5th and reverse because it was a farm truck and never saw a day out of 4th
 
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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 09:41 PM
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Does it grind going into reverse? Like, put it in gear, let the clutch out and you get a grinding/whining noise?

If so, try playing with it first. All of my (worn out) ZF5s have been tricky to get into reverse - I've often had to let the clutch out, put it in again, and then quickly put it into gear. Often it works. The more worn the transmission, the more of a trick it takes.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 10:04 AM
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FIRST - 4x4 or 2WD?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 04:46 PM
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It's a 4x4. And, there is no grinding or whining noise. It is almost as if reverse doesn't exist, anymore. I can get another transmission out of a buddies truck. But, I was hoping....... Like I said, I am new to the world of diesel and I thought that I would start on old idi, high miles, and just learn a lot as I went. Didn't expect the very first problem to be transmission.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 05:33 PM
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Try it in 4HI and 4LO. This MIGHT be a transfer case issue. Even if reverse doesn't work in 4HI or 4LO, I wouldn't condemn the tranny just yet. I would first disconnect the t-case from the tranny and see if the tranny output turns while in reverse.
 
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Originally Posted by Chevy_Eater
The ZF5 does indeed have reverse syncro's and they are a weak point of the transmission. Time for a rebuild.


Interesting, learned something new. Every gear box I have driven there was no synchro for reverse.
And I have shifted a lot of different boxes.
A ZF5 is just not one of them.


OP has 439K on his box, must be on the ragged edge.




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