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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 12:01 PM
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I am looking to do injectors and a turbo upgrades, as of now I am leaning toward the kc38r turbo and just don't know quite enough about injectors to make a decision. I am not looking to make crazy horsepower (below 500)

Asking about size not necessarily brands

Truck is stock besides
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Hydra with php tunes
Boost, trans, egt gauge
Trans was rebuilt using a little heavier than stock components along with heavier torque converter
 
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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 12:12 PM
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What year model of truck? What are you going to do with it? Like to know what it is used for before I recommend.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 12:12 PM
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There are a couple of sponsors on this site that can do you well, they will be along. Most will agree that new is the way to go unless the $$$ just won't permit.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 12:18 PM
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Add to that the fact that "new" for our 7.3's is getting ready to be a thing of the past.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 12:19 PM
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The truck is 01 with a build date of 10/00 which should be the forged rods correct?
It is mostly a DD but will tow around the farm on occasion or hauling a boat
 
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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 02:36 PM
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Just for fun factor, 160/100 should do fine. Should put out 400 RWHP. Mitt need 38R to go with it and cold air intake as well. Get new tunes for your hydra. Should have forged rods. If your not towing to much, 200/100 or 238/100 will work well to. If you want to stay closer to stock, 160 stock nozzles. Make sure the truck is 100 percent. That means all your sensors, up pipes and everything are in good shape. U-joints as well. All filters should be changed as well.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by F250_
Add to that the fact that "new" for our 7.3's is getting ready to be a thing of the past.
I received this from David at PIS this morning...

I just called my rep that I purchase all of my new injectors through and he tells me that he knows nothing about Alliant stopping production.

That being said, we specialize in Reman 7.3 injectors, we own tons of core sets that we can remanufacture for you, or we can rebuild your set specifically from your truck. Converting them from an AD to a 160/80 is no problem at all.

Please shoot me an email or give me a call when the time is right and we will do our best to get you set up.

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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 03:16 PM
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Thanks forgot to put in there I have the 6637 intake and am doing cac boots soon, just have to measure them this weekend

Also should the turbo come before injectors or other way around? If I do one I will do the other just not right away,
 
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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 04:33 PM
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Depends how big your going on injectors.160/30 I wouldn't think so. Bigger then that it mitt smoke a lot. And your tunes should also go on what turbo you have also.
Dave Merritt, what is the difference between the 160/80 and really the 175/80? Same cores and just different inters, or something more drastic?
 
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I quoted the information from David Merritt in relation to the rumor that Alliant may be stopping production of new 7.3 injectors. Although, I will take my best shot to answer your question and if someone with much more knowledge disagrees, I welcome their thoughts.

The first number (160 or 175) is the amount of fuel in cc's that is standard on that size injector. Then the nozzle (80 or 30 or 0) is the amount of overage that the injector can handle when being pushed. So, when looking at a 160/30 vs a 160/80 injector, the 80 can deal with more fuel demand in a way that keeps the FIPW down and EGT's more under control.

This is how I understand it, but I might be a bit off.

On a personal level, I plan to get 160/80 because I want near stock daily driving with a bit more grunt when towing up a grade with EGT's near or under 1000.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
I quoted the information from David Merritt in relation to the rumor that Alliant may be stopping production of new 7.3 injectors. Although, I will take my best shot to answer your question and if someone with much more knowledge disagrees, I welcome their thoughts.

The first number (160 or 175) is the amount of fuel in cc's that is standard on that size injector. Then the nozzle (80 or 30 or 0) is the amount of overage that the injector can handle when being pushed. So, when looking at a 160/30 vs a 160/80 injector, the 80 can deal with more fuel demand in a way that keeps the FIPW down and EGT's more under control.

This is how I understand it, but I might be a bit off.

On a personal level, I plan to get 160/80 because I want near stock daily driving with a bit more grunt when towing up a grade with EGT's near or under 1000.
You could be right but my understanding is that the overage on the nozzles referred to the size of the holes in the nozzles thus letting the fuel out faster. And I might be off.
 
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You could be right but my understanding is that the overage on the nozzles referred to the size of the holes in the nozzles thus letting the fuel out faster. And I might be off.
That is what I was trying to get to, but the thoughts in my brain were not getting out. I do this all the time, just ask my wife about the stupid crap we bicker about...
 
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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 08:03 PM
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When I was looking at injectors I talked to PIS and said 160/30's would be perfect for staying around in the mid 300 to right around 400 hp. When it's time for injectors PIS is who I will be going with I would talk to an injector builder of your choice and tell them what you want as far as HP.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 04:29 AM
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I have PIS 160/30s. I wish I had gone with 160/100's but as far as a boost in performance, it was very noticeable even when I was running the stock turbo with just the WW gen 1. When I bumped up to the 38R things got even better. The 30/80/100, etc. refers to the holes in the nozzles and how much, in percentage, they are oversized from stock.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 02:09 PM
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Sous, I know all that but if you go onto the sites I was wondering if the body of the injector was different from 160 to 175. Meaning, is it a AA or what ever model. I don't believe I see a 175 from alliance. Nozzles I know about. That's why I asked Dave if he would pop back in. God bless,
 
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