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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 11:53 PM
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E4OD blown ?

Hey guys iv had a pretty eventful day so lets see if you can help. First off. The main problem. My 1992 f350 starting shifting/driving/acting weird after i pulled an f150 outta the mud got back on the road and it was almost undrivable Got to a friends shop and there was no trans fluid in the tranny. Literally none The truck was shifting fine before i pulled out the f150. Could my truck not have been in gear or something ? Drove it home in second and it was fine but the problems it was having were shifting. Id put it in reverse and it wouldnt move for a good 20 seconds and then it would kick into gear. Same thing with drive. And once in drive it was shifting way late and really bad. We could hear the gears grinding and such while in drive. Please help Does it sound like i need a new trans ? If so anyone know what actually happened !
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 02:14 AM
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Sounds like you broke the pan, or cracked the case and all the fluid leaked out. A thorough inspection is needed to figure out what happened to more than 4 gallons of fluid. Start by filling it back up, let it idle in park, then look for where it's leaking from. From the bell housing will most likely be the front pump seal, the pan will just splash on the ground before even starting it, anywhere up from the pan seal is a broken case, the tail shaft has a seal too.

I just had an E4OD installed in September. The rebuilt unit cost me $2400 alone plus another $850 in parts and labor.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 05:55 AM
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It had fluid in it. Probably not enough to read on the stick, but there was fluid. Without any fluid in it the trans can only work in park or neutral. It is literally impossible to drive it at all with no fluid.

Quite often the torque converter hub seal gets overheated when you pull out a truck that's stuck. When it overheats it dumps out a lot of fluid, which can cause the problems you saw. If you continue to drive it overheated and with low fluid you can do additional damage that can destroy the trans.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
It had fluid in it. Probably not enough to read on the stick, but there was fluid. Without any fluid in it the trans can only work in park or neutral. It is literally impossible to drive it at all with no fluid.

Quite often the torque converter hub seal gets overheated when you pull out a truck that's stuck. When it overheats it dumps out a lot of fluid, which can cause the problems you saw. If you continue to drive it overheated and with low fluid you can do additional damage that can destroy the trans.
ok so what should i do now ? Its running completely normal today and the trans fluid level is normal. Should i leave it or ?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 06:31 PM
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I had one that would do this tranny fluid get hot and the seal would get hot and it would puke fluid. Let it cool off and add fluid and it would be fine. I did finally replace the front seal with and improved seal to resist the heat and add a lot bigger cooler.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wtroger
I had one that would do this tranny fluid get hot and the seal would get hot and it would puke fluid. Let it cool off and add fluid and it would be fine. I did finally replace the front seal with and improved seal to resist the heat and add a lot bigger cooler.
how hard was that work to do ? And how much did it cost ?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 07:21 PM
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You do have to pull the trans out and pull TC to replace the seal. I did the work myself. But I am blessed to have a lift. Biggest thing is make sure the TC is all the way back in the transmission an make sure the TC nut studs are lined up with holes in the flex plate when you put it back in.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ sheedy
ok so what should i do now ? Its running completely normal today and the trans fluid level is normal. Should i leave it or ?
If it's running completely normal I'd leave it alone.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 10:58 PM
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Agreed, if filling the fluid back up fixed the problem - leave it be. Maybe install a bigger transmission cooler if you plan on doing that kind of stuff again.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 08:41 PM
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Post your mpgs !
 
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